Minutes - Planning Board Joint Meeting with Landmarks Board - 8/18/2011
CITY OF BOULDER
PLANNING BOARD/ LANDMARKS BOARD ACTION MINUTES
August 48, 2011
1777 Broadway, Council Chambers
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are retained in Central Records (telephone: 303-441-3043). Minutes and streaming audio are also
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT:
Aaron Brockett
Willa Johnson
Tim Plass
Danica Powell
Andrew Shocinaker, Chair
Mary Young
PLANNING BOARD MEMB.FRS ABSENT:
Bill I-Iolicky
LANDMARKS BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT:
BOARD MEMBERS:
Mark Gerwing
Kurt Nordback
Liz Payton
Lisa Podmajersky, Chair
John Spitzer
STAFF PRESENT:
David Driskeli, Executive Director of Community Planning and Sustainability
David Gelu-, Deputy City Attorney
Debra Kalish, Senior Assistant City Attorney
Susan Richstone, Comprehensive Planning Division Manager
Charles Fcrro, Land Use Review Manager
Sam Assefa, Senior Urban Designer
Elaine Mcl.auglin, Senior Planner
James I lewat, Historic Preservation Planner
Katie Knapp, Civil Engineer 11
Heidi Schum, Civil Engineer I
Debbie Fox, Administrative Specialist III
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair, A. Shoemaker, declared a quorum at 6.05 p.m. and the following business was
conducted.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
3. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
4. DISCUSSION OF DISPOSITIONS, PLANNING BOARD CALL-UPS
A. Wetland Pennit, LUR201 l -00044, 4474 North Broadway
The board did not call tip these items.
5. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
A. Public hearing and consideration of two requests related to redevelopment of the former
Daily Camera site (1048 Pearl and 1023 Walnut) into 160,000 s.f. of commercial office and
retail space in two buildings connecter) by a bridge over the alley:
o Concept Plan Review Comments from Planning Board
o Concept Level Landmarks Alteration Certificate Approval from Landmarks
Board
Applicant: Victoria Canto
Property Owner: Karlin Pearl Street LLC
Staff Presentation
E. McLaughlin and ,i. Hewat presented the item to the board.
Questions from the Board to Staff
T. Plass questioned whether the 61 ft height on building across the street and the 55 it height
on the proposed building are measured in the same way? Staff responded the heights are
fi-oin the CiIS database and are likely measured 25' of the building to the low point.
T. Plass questioned the view sheds and whether alleys represent significant view sheds?
Staff responded the current situation is already blocked, so it isn't considered significant. The
significant view shed is from Pearl Street.
K. Nordback questioned the air lease and what it means when the 20 years are up'? Staff
responded that the existing ]case has been renewed once and likely to be renewed by future
councils. There is a payment for the ]case.
M. Voting questioned what the parking requirements are? Staff responded the building is in
the Central Area General Improvement District that only requires parking for residential, so
there isn't a parking requirement. But. the applicant is likely to provide it for Class A office
space.
L. Podmajersky asked for clarification if the height was 49', specifically on the Pearl Street
side. Staff responded that 49' was due to issues of slope over the entire site and that dictated
the 49' height on Pearl Street. The building is higher on the Pearl Street side and would be
measured independently. The shade structure on the roof and has to be considered as part of
the overall height, therefore included in the 55' overall height.
L. Podmajersky asked about the open space requirement. Staff responded it is 10-20% in
DT5. There is an allowance known as a Land Use Intensity Modification due to the
proximity to things like the mall. It allows the applicant to reduce it 0% if they meet the
criteria.
L. Podmajersky asked ]low high at street face the new non-contri buting building located
across the street is? Staff responded that it is likely 36-38 feet, possibly a little taller.
J. Spitzer questioned whether the ground level plan outlined on page A2, is in the spirit of
30 feet widths at the storefront level? Staff responded that the Landmark Board's purview is
limited to the exterior of building. It is the applicant's choice to design the interior.
M. Cerwing asked if the bridge on the alley is the same width and height as the existing
one'? Staff responded yes, that it is 15ft high through the alley for fire access.
L. Payton asked about the current building's FAR? Staff was not able to provide that
information during the meeting.
L. Payton questioned the community benefit modifications? Staff in responded that
community benefit is enacted at annexation, but there is a potential code change that will
potentially allow an additional 1.0 FAR for non-residential, if the housing linkage fee is paid.
L. Payton questioned what staff is doing to ensure this is a vibrant urban space? Staff
responded the applicant will need to strongly consider the corner to create value for the
community.
A. Brockett asked what would be the amount of the housing linkage fee, if the DT-5 code
change goes through? Staff responded it has not been calculated yet.
K. Nordback asked if the parking was included in the FAR calculation? Staff responded that
everything above grade counts, below grade does not. 't'here is loading space above grade,
with approximately 7 loading spaces and carshare.
L. Podinajersky asked to what extent the city can make requirements about how large the
office spaces or number of tenants can be in the building? Staff responded that the code
doesn't dictate what type of retail can go into the building, the market does.
M. Deriving asked if the staff did an analysis of the alley in regards the design guidelines
and use? Staff responded that analysis of the alley was limited but does take into
consideration the Downtown Design Guidelines section on alley design.
Applicant Presentation
Vicki Canto, Vice President of Development and Matt Sewabb, founder of Karlin Real Estate
and Chris Shears, Project Architect, presented the item to the board.
Board Questions liar the Applicant
K. Nordback asked where the entrances will be for the street level retail, from lobby or
street? Applicant: It will likely be from the street, with the office space entrances from the
lobby.
W. Johnson asked for the applicant to explain the arcade/overliang on 11"'. Applicant:: The
intension is to make the storefront as transparent as possible and it may be better to set back
the building as part of the solution to handle the NE corner.
W. Johnson asked the applicant as to how committed they are to public having access to the
rooftop? Applicant: that isn't known yet.
W. Johnson asked if the potential tenants are known and what scale and type'? Applicant:
Tenants want larger floor plates, but there have been no commitments thus far.
W. Johnson asked if the Walnut Street office space have below grade office space?
Applicant: Yes, it is a possible alternative.
T. Plass asked if they considered incorporating the existing building versus demolishing it'?
Applicant: It was considered with the Walnut Street building, but not possible due to the
issues with the buildings on the east and west. They are likely to reuse the structure of the
building on Walnut.
D. Powell asked by whom the rooftop space, beyond the cafe, will be used or leased?
Applicant: A good deal will be used by tenants, except for the Walnut side, which will have
urban agriculture/green roof or storm water detention. Could it be a restaurant'? Applicant:
Yes.
L. Podmajersky asked how committed they are to not having financial institutions in retail
spaces? Applicant: It is not the intention, because not best use for Pearl Street, but they are
not there yet in terms of looking at specific tenants and leasing.
L. Podmajersky asked if they considered smaller modular buildings to follow more
traditional patterns and offer more variety and diversity. Applicant: That is not likely for the
potential tenants.
L. Payton asked what is the goal of the building? Applicant: Goal is both economic and
contextual, based on the needs of the eorni-nunity.
K. Nordback questioned whether there are plans/changes for the walkway between Walnut
and Pearl? Applicant: It needs work, but they will be studying and working on the design.
M. Gerwing asked if they considered planar construction versus mass? Applicant: The
process starts with larger forms, then the planes and combination of 2 best approaches.
A. Brockett inquired about how the automated parking will work and whether it will be
available to tenants and visitors? Applicant: It is contingent upon cost, soil and structure
issues and it will be available to both tenants and visitors.
Public hearing.
1. Hugh Moore, Main Street, Gold 1111I, 80302. Chair of I listoric Boulder. Representing
Ilistoric Boulder, Moore spoke in general support the concept as proposed, but suggested
the NE corner be less abrupt at 1 I"' and Pearl, as it will hide the view of the Flatirons.
2. David Hose, 900 Pearl #201. Owner of Tajona/Resident of Tajona building. He likes the
project, but has concerns about the 300 parking spots, as it will cause significant traffic
issues.
3. Elizabeth Allen. She spoke in opposition because the community n-leeting wasn't
representative of the community, from her assessment, it was only the people that will
benefit fi-om the building who were in attendance.
4. William Shutkin, 2103 Mapleton. He spoke in support of the project so that Boulder
remains a leader in urban design.
5. Phil Shull, 497 Pearl Street. Spoke in general support of the project though expressed
issues with the alley, concern that the building is too static, and recommended that the
corner be revised.
6. Catherine Seheweiger, 628 Maxwell. She expressed that the historic district should
have been excluded from the FAR bonus, the building is too large for the historic district
and won't contribute to the streetscape.
7. Ed Byrne, 250 Arapahoe #30. He asked the board to support the project.
8. Gwen Dooley, Plan Boulder County. She questioned the demonstrated need for the
arnount of office space, whether the transportation/parking be supported, noted that the
massing is misleading and questioned whether the building will cast a permanent shadow.
She also noted that the form is too modern to fit in with the historic scale and asked if the
Camera building will be honored somehow in the new building?
9. Kevin Patrick McCarthy, 733 Pearl Street. He questioned whether the uniqueness and
vision is being addressed and was dismayed that having no parking wasn't an option. He
also expressed concerns about the urban canyon affect and suggested backing the
building away from the street to let light in.
10. Adrian Sopher. Ile noted that the conditions of approval on page 43 of 45, 2b and 2c
arc contradictory to allowing the view of the flatirons.
Applicant Rebuttal
The applicant did not have any questions or comments in response.
Adjourn of the Landmarks Board
Oil a motion by K. Nordback, seconded by J. Spitzer, the Lau dinarks Board approved 5-0 to
acl]oul"n the i11CCting until the SchlCnlber 6 L.indniarks Board 1110tint".
Board Discussion
Mass and Scale
In summary of the discussion, the board found the massing and height acceptable on the Walnut
side, but there were concerns with the Pearl Street side. There were a wide variety of opinions
regarding this aspect, ranging from the possibility of the four stories being too heavy to it being
acceptable. The 30' bays are satisfactory under the circumstances. It was unanimous that the
building needs to be unique, in line with the times, with superb detailing and attention to detail.
The windows were specifically cited as an item that should not be generic. The board had
consensus that the glass box on NE corner does not work as currently configured. The board
varied on the range of views for how the corner could be utilized, but was in agreement that the
corner is important. There was consensus that the west side glass box is better suited to the
building and vital public space. The roof top opportunity is important for public use. It was asked
to use cues from the historic buildings and from the fact the site was the home of the city's
newspaper.
Viewshed
The board felt the street doesn't function properly now, so the new building should to come up to
the street to continue the flow from the Mall. It was suggested to take cues from Tom's
Tavern/Salt, as that entry gives a symmetrical aspect at an angle and steps down. This would also
create harmony at that intersection. This could also be an opportunity to present new views on
rooftop. It was emphasized that the applicant should not take away from the meeting that the board
does not care about the view.
Alley/] 0"' Street Walkway
There was unanimous agreement that the alley needs a management plan. In regards to the bridge,
the board varied on its opinion as to whether it is appropriate, too wide, too heavy and uninviting.
One recommendation was to light it up to bring more life to the area.
Parking
The board varied on its opinion of the parking. Some felt it would be best to look at other options
to get people to the office, such as bike share, other garages in the area, or a bus like Crispin
Porter, instead of'having parking at all. Others found the automated parking to be an intriguing
way to address the below grade parking and retail space. In either situation, it was agreed that
having re,,il trees planted, especially by the plaza, would be good.
Additional Comments
It was recommended that the building should memorialize in some way, the Daily Camera
newspaper, or highlight the evolution of the corner. It was suggested to be creative, not with just a
framed picture. Some examples were to have historic headlines in the cement or old papers lining
the lobby, or an informational display.
Applicant Rebuttal
The applicant did not have any questions or comments in response.
7. MATTERS FROM THE PLANNING: BOARD, PLANNING DIRECTOR, AND CITY
ATTORNEY
1. Sept 1 - 2 Board members will be absent, so the meeting may change dates.
2. D. Powell not in on 15`x' of September
8. DEBRIEF/AGENDA CHECK
9. ADJOURNMENT
The Plaiuning Board adjourned the meeting at 10:00 p.m.
APPROVED BY
Board lair
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