024 PSCo Reply in Support of Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Subject Matter Jurisdiction
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DISTRICT COURT, BOULDER COUNTY, COLORADO
Court Address: 1777 6TH Street, Boulder
Colorado 80302
303-441-3750
_________________________________________________
Petitioner:
THE CITY OF BOULDER, a Colorado Home Rule City,
v.
Respondents:
PUBLIC SERVICE COMPANY OF COLORADO, a
Colorado Corporation, d/b/a XCEL ENERGY;
MORGAN GUARANTY TRUST COMPANY OF NEW
YORK; and PAUL WEISSMANN, in his official capacity as
Treasurer of Boulder County.
_________________________________________________
Attorneys for Respondent, Public Service Company of
Colorado, a Colorado Corporation
John R. Sperber, Atty. Reg. No. 22073
Brandee L. Caswell, Atty. Reg. No. 30706
Matthew D. Clark, Atty. Reg. No. 44704
FAEGRE BAKER DANIELS LLP
1144 Fifteenth Street, Suite 3400
Denver, Colorado 80202
Telephone: (303) 607-3500
Fax: (303) 607-3600
Email: jack.sperber@FaegreBD.com
brandee.caswell@FaegreBD.com
matthew.clark@FaegreBD.com
COURT USE ONLY
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Case Number: 19 CV 30637
Division: 5
REPLY IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO DISMISS FIRST AMENDED PETITION IN
CONDEMNATION FOR LACK OF SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION PURSUANT
TO COLO. R. CIV. P. 12(b)(1)
I. INTRODUCTION
Judge LaBuda’s Final Opinion—discussed in the Motion to Dismiss (“Motion”)—holds:
The PUC has the authority to regulate public utilities and the
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facilities, which provide service within the City of Boulder as well
as unincorporated Boulder.… [I]t is necessary and appropriate for
the PUC to determine how facilities should be assigned, divided, or
jointly used to protect the system’s effectiveness, reliability, and
safety. Such a determination must be made prior to the City’s
condemnation of property for utility municipalization.
…. By requiring the PUC to determine the allocation and transfer of
assets prior to the City’s condemnation, the parties avoid finding
themselves in a situation where the City has condemned property to
which it ultimately may not be entitled.
The Court hereby AFFIRMS the October 29, 2013 Decision No.
C13-1350 and the December 11, 2013 Decision No. C13-1550, both
issued by the PUC.
Ex. 1 (Final Opinion) at 12. Contrary to the City’s argument, the Final Opinion did not limit the
PUC’s jurisdiction to issues regarding service of outside-the-City customers. Instead, the Final
Opinion required the City to commence proceedings so that the PUC can “determine the allocation
and transfer of assets … which provide service within the City of Boulder as well as unincorporated
Boulder … prior to the City’s condemnation.” Id. The Court should reject the City’s arguments
and dismiss this lawsuit for the following reasons:
First, issue preclusion based on two prior orders of the Boulder County District Court bars
Boulder’s condemnation lawsuit. Despite the City’s characterization, the Final Opinion’s holding
is clear: Boulder cannot move forward with condemnation until the PUC has approved assets for
transfer. That has not happened. Moreover, Boulder cannot re-litigate the issue or otherwise use
this condemnation action as an end run to seek reconsideration or appeal of final decisions in other
proceedings. Moreover, Boulder fails to address Judge LaBuda’s other order dismissing the City’s
earlier condemnation action (the “Dismissal Order”), which also bars this lawsuit.
Second, the City’s argument that the PUC lost jurisdiction in 2016 (when the City finally
decided to drop its effort to serve out-of-City customers), is belied by its own participation in the
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PUC proceedings over the last three years, including its claimed payment of nearly $1 million in
expenses ordered as part of those proceedings.
Third, the City does not address PSCo’s second basis for dismissal: binding Supreme Court
authority that requires the Court to dismiss this lawsuit until the PUC completes its proceedings.
Finally, dismissal for lack of subject matter jurisdiction is mandatory. There is nothing
unprecedented or extraordinary about this result and parallel proceedings are not legally an option
II. FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL CLARIFICATION
Boulder’s Response requires clarification of several factual and procedural issues.
On August 8, 2019, the PUC moved to intervene and dismiss this action on jurisdictional
grounds, making clear that the PUC disagrees with the City’s interpretation of the PUC’s prior
decisions. Like PSCo’s Motion, the PUC’s motion to dismiss recognizes that the “Boulder District
Court has already considered the agency and court roles in this matter and resolved it is the PUC’s
responsibility to determine how Public Service’s facilities should be assigned, divided, or jointly
used…. Until the PUC makes this determination, there is no ‘property’ for the Court to consider
for condemnation.… Once the PUC has issued a final decision approving the designation of assets
for transfer, Boulder my re-file a petition ….” PUC Mot. to Dismiss at 2–3.
Additionally, in its Response, the City either does not address or does not dispute any of
the following facts raised by the Motion:
• The City commenced the PUC Proceedings to satisfy the Final
Opinion’s requirement that the PUC “determine the allocation and
transfer of assets prior to the City’s condemnation.”
• The City seeks to acquire facilities both within and outside the City
limits that are currently used at least in part to serve out-of-City
customers. See Resp. at 15 n. 16.
• The PUC Proceedings continue to this day. See, e.g., Response at 2
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n.3 (“The City has requested that the PUC make a final decision on
all pending issues ….”), 12, 17, 18 (describing “the ongoing
proceedings before the PUC”); see also PUC Motion to Dismiss at
7–11 (describing some of the outstanding issues); Aug. 16, 2019,
Cross Pet. of Int’l Bus. Mach. Corp. ¶¶ 4, 8 (describing ongoing
PUC proceedings, including proceedings related to the substation
that provides service to IBM’s Boulder campus which “houses
servers that store and process data for some of the world’s most
critical public and private institutions”).
• The Cost Agreement that addresses the payment to PSCo of
approximately $110 million in costs that would otherwise be
pursued as damages in this case, see Aug. 29, 2019, Resp. to Mot.
to Intervene at 8–9, requires issuance of a final PUC order approving
its terms without modification before it becomes effective.
• The PUC has not issued an order approving either the Cost
Agreement or Easement Sharing Agreement (or any other
agreement submitted by the parties).
• The PUC has not issued an order confirming satisfaction of the
conditions it set for designation of certain assets outside substations
for potential transfer.
• The Third Application Order denied the City’s request to designate
assets within substations for potential transfer.
• No subsequent order authorizing assets within substations for
potential transfer has ever issued. See also PUC Motion to Dismiss
at 6 (“The PUC has not issued a final decision approving the
designation of assets for transfer.”).
• The PUC believes it must grant the City final approval before
condemnation proceedings can commence. See id. (“Once the PUC
makes this determination [regarding the assignment, division, and
joint use of facilities], jurisdiction vests in the Boulder District Court
to adjudicate the condemnation and pricing of assets.”).
These facts alone are dispositive.1 Per the Final Opinion, the PUC’s Motion to Dismiss, and
1 The City’s Response also contains several false allegations that are irrelevant to this Motion. For
example, the City states (without proof) that “[o]n June 28, 2019, the City filed the property list
known as Exhibit 5A when Xcel advised it had no changes to the version filed on October 26,
2018.” But PSCo has explained to both the PUC and the City that the exhibit is still “In Process,”
has been changed since it was originally filed, and continues to contain inaccurate information and
facilities inside substations that the PUC has not approved for transfer. See Aug. 19, 2019, Public
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Colorado case law, this Court lacks jurisdiction and must dismiss this case.
III. ARGUMENT
The Court lacks jurisdiction over this condemnation lawsuit that the City commenced
before obtaining the necessary approvals from the PUC.
I. Issue Preclusion Bars this Lawsuit.
A. The Prior Orders.
The City argues that the Final Opinion only applies—and PUC jurisdiction over the assets
subject to potential transfer only arises—if the City’s utility seeks to serve out-of-city Customers.
Resp. at 4. The City then argues that because it dropped earlier plans to serve out-of-City
customers, the Final Opinion no longer provides a basis for issue preclusion. Id.
As the Final Opinion’s holding (quoted above) emphasizes, PUC authority extends to the
facilities “which provide service within the City of Boulder as well as unincorporated Boulder.”
Final Opinion at 12. The holding continues: “it is necessary and appropriate for the PUC to
determine how facilities should be assigned, divided, or jointly used to protect the system’s
effectiveness, reliability, and safety.” Id. These rulings are not limited to Boulder’s improper
attempt to serve out-of-city customers. The Final Opinion’s reasoning and justification for
acknowledging the PUC’s exclusive jurisdiction is based upon the fact that Boulder’s
municipalization efforts—even within the City limits—will have impacts on out-of-City customers
Service Company of Colorado’s Responses to Commission Decision, etc., Exhibit 1–Status of
Required Documentation (Proceeding No. 15A-0589E). A true and correct copy of this Exhibit 1
(highlighting added), is attached hereto as Exhibit 8. On August 30th, the parties filed with the PUC
a new version of this Exhibit, but the parties still disagree about whether certain assets should be
included. See City of Boulder’s “Notice of Filing of … Corrected List of Assets Outside
Substations…” (Proceeding No. 15A-0589E). PSCo disagrees with some of the City’s
characterizations in the Notice and will be filing a Response with the Commission.
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and the larger integrated electric system. These impacts arise regardless of whether the City serves
out-of-City customers.
For example, the Motion cites the following passage of the Final Opinion:
It is necessary for the PUC to determine which entity will be
providing service outside of the City and to then determine how to
best allocate the property to accomplish service to the extraterritorial
customers and the statewide power grid. In the event Public Service
continues serving those outside of Boulder, the Court finds that the
property in question will not be easy to separate and may require
technical expertise in determining the best method of separation in
order to avoid negatively impacting the statewide energy grid. The
PUC is best suited to exercise jurisdiction in this regard….
Final Opinion at 9 (emphasis added). Thus, the Court made it clear that the PUC’s role and
jurisdiction do not turn upon whether Boulder serves out-of-City customers.
This is not the only passage in the Final Opinion making it clear the PUC’s jurisdiction
does not end at Boulder’s City limits, as Boulder claims. As another paragraph emphasizes: “The
property the City desires to condemn provides service outside of the municipality and the PUC has
the authority under the Colorado Constitution … to govern the provision of utilities to
extraterritorial customers and state interests. Boulder … does not have a constitutional right to
usurp the PUC’s constitutional right to regulate facilities and services that serve utility customers
in unincorporated Boulder County.” Id. at 11.2 Once again, the lynchpin is whether the facilities
the City proposes to take currently help serve customers outside the City or otherwise impact the
larger system, not whether Boulder will be serving out-of-City customers with its utility. The City
does not address this portion of the Final Opinion.
2 Article XXV of Colorado’s Constitution states that “all power to regulate … [electric utility]
facilities … is hereby vested in … [the PUC].”
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While the City argues that “[t]he primary theme running though Judge LaBuda’s decision
is that the PUC’s jurisdiction depended on the City’s plan to serve out of city customers,” Response
at 14, the Final Opinion assumes the opposite: “The Court proceeds under the assumption that
Public Service maintains its right to provide service outside of the municipality unless and until
the PUC determines” otherwise. Id. at 9 (emphasis added). In the very next paragraph, the Final
Opinion states that the PUC “is best suited to exercise jurisdiction … [to] determin[e] the best
method of separation in order to avoid negatively impacting the statewide energy grid.” Id.
Ultimately, the Court “AFFIRM[ED] the October 29, 2013 Decision No. C13-1350 and
the December 11, 2013 Decision No. C13-1550, both issued by the PUC.” Id. at 12 (emphasis in
original). The Court’s affirmation is complete, with no portion of the underlying PUC rulings
denied, overruled, or remanded. Like the Final Opinion, those two declaratory rulings3 do not tie
PUC jurisdiction to service of county customers; they tie PUC jurisdiction to (1) facilities used to
serve out-of-City customers and (2) the integrity of the interconnected statewide system:
The Commission exercises its regulatory authority over Public
Service’s transmission and distribution lines, substations, and other
facilities to protect the reliability, safety, and service quality of
electricity services provided to unincorporated Boulder County, and
to safeguard the integrity of the system statewide. If Boulder seeks
to condemn facilities, wherever located, that Public Service
currently uses, at least in part, to serve customers located outside of
Boulder’s city limits, this Commission must have the ability to
investigate and determine how the facilities should be assigned,
divided, or jointly used to protect the system’s effectiveness,
reliability, and safety, as well as any other matter affecting the public
interest. Thus, a Commission proceeding addressing these facilities
should precede a condemnation action ….
3 The Motion refers to the two PUC declaratory rulings as the “Declaratory Decision” (Exhibit 3
to the Motion) and the “RRR” (Exhibit 4 to the Motion). See Mot. 4–5.
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Declaratory Decision at ¶ 28.
Regulatory oversight of the assets, plant, and facilities used to
provide electricity outside Boulder’s territorial boundaries advances
important public interests.… Performance of the Commission’s
duty to ensure the reliability of the system for unincorporated
Boulder County and other regions of the state requires an evaluation
and determination of the optimal division, joint use, and potential
replacement of assets and facilities providing services both inside
and outside Boulder city limits.
RRR ¶ 19.
The Response does not discuss these rulings. Instead, the City emphasizes two passages
within the Final Opinion to argue that the PUC has no jurisdiction if the City seeks to condemn
assets to serve in-City customers:
Boulder, as a home rule city, has a constitutional right to use the
power of eminent domain to create and operate a municipal utility.
Colo. Const. art. XX, §§ 1 and 6. Accordingl y, if Boulder were
seeking to create a municipal utility to serve City of Boulder
residents only, it could do so without any PUC involvement.
* * *
It is clear that the PUC does not have jurisdiction to exercise its
authority under Article XXV when a municipality operates a utility
solely within its boundaries under Article XX.
Final Opinion at 2, 6 (cited in Resp. at 3–4). However, the City is not merely “seeking to create a
municipal utility to serve City of Boulder residents only” nor “operat[ing] a utility solely within
its boundaries.” These hypothetical issues were not before either the PUC or the Court. Rather than
simply building and operating a utility from the ground up, the City is proposing to divide an
existing integrated system and take for itself assets that PSCo currently relies upon to provide
service to customers that it will continue to serve after separation. See id. at 9 (“[T]he power system
is intertwined with the system that provides service to extraterritorial customers and the statewide
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energy grid.”). For all the reasons cited above, that activity—breaking the current system into two
in a way that will impact out-of-city customers and the larger grid—triggers the jurisdiction of the
PUC, which must “determine how facilities should be assigned, divided, or jointly used to protect
the system’s effectiveness, reliability, and safety … prior to the City’s condemnation of property
for utility municipalization.” Id. at 12.
B. The issue this Court faces is the same as that addressed by Judge LaBuda.
Issue preclusion applies where a party demonstrates: “(1) the issue is identical to an issue
actually litigated and necessarily adjudicated in the prior proceeding; (2) the party against whom
estoppel was sought was a party or was in privity with a party to the prior proceeding; (3) there
was a final judgment on the merits in the prior proceeding; and (4) the party against whom the
doctrine is asserted had a full and fair opportunity to litigate the issues in the prior proceeding.”
Villas at Highland Park Homeowners Ass’n, Inc. v. Villas at Highland Park, LLC, 394 P.3d 1144,
1152 (Colo. 2017) (citations and quotations omitted). The City only challe nges the first of these
four elements. Resp. at 4, 15 (question “is whether the issues presented are identical.”).
The relevant “issue” here is “whether the City can commence a condemnation action before
completing PUC proceedings.” Mot. at 12. The PUC and the Court both held multiple times that
the City cannot. See, e.g., Final Opinion at 12. These decisions have long been final and cannot be
challenged in this condemnation action.
The fact that the City no longer seeks to serve customers outside of the City does not
undermine the Final Opinion or the PUC’s jurisdiction, nor does it have any relevance to whether
the first prong of the issue preclusion analysis has been satisfied. The Court issued the Final
Opinion and dismissed the City’s earlier condemnation action because the City had not conducted
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the necessary PUC proceedings, not because the City sought to serve out-of-City customers. Final
Opinion at 12 (ordering that the PUC’s “determination must be made prior to the City’s
condemnation of property for utility municipalization”); Dismissal Order at 1 (“The January 14,
2015 Order permits the Public Utility Commission to determine how facilities should be assigned,
divided, or jointly used to protect the utility system’s effectiveness, reliability, and safety. The
Court noted that such a determination must be made prior to the City’s condemnation of property
for utility municipalization.”). The issue here—whether the City can commence a condemnation
action before completing the requisite PUC proceedings—is identical to the issue decided by the
Court in both the Final Opinion and Dismissal Order and has already been decided against Boulder.
The City’s argument that it has unilaterally satisfied the three conditions set forth in the
Third Application Order for the potential transfer of certain assets outside of substations is
undermined by the fact that the Parties are currently litigating whether those conditions have been
satisfied and other issues at the PUC as the City admits. E.g., Resp. 2 n. 3 (“On August 21, 2019,
the PUC held a status conference during which the Commissioners expressed their intent to
expedite completion of the PUC Proceedings. The PUC will discuss outstanding issues on August
28, 2019 too.”);4 17 (alleging “[t]here is no prejudice to the Commission, if the Court proceeds in
parallel with the Commission”); 18 (describing “the ongoing proceedings before the PUC”).
Moreover, the Response (1) does not dispute that the PUC has not approved the agreements
4 Following the Commission’s August 28 deliberations, it issued an Interim Decision establishing
a new deadline for Boulder to submit final versions of the agreements and correct asset list required
by Decision No. C17-0750 to address the three conditions to transfer of certain assets outside
substations; providing a ten-day period for parties to review and respond to the filing and accepting
PSCo’s pending Petition for Declaratory Orders as to assets inside substations. See Decision C19-
0716-I. Thus, the PUC proceedings are clearly not yet complete.
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submitted by the parties, including the Cost Agreement5 which, by its express terms cannot go into
effect unless approved without modification; (2) does not dispute that the Third Application Order
denied the potential transfer of assets within substations6; and (3) fails to acknowledge that the
PUC has moved to intervene and dismiss this condemnation action because proceedings at the
PUC are ongoing. Between PSCo, the PUC, and now IBM, only Boulder insists that it can proceed
here. The PUC must complete its job of ensuring a safe and reliable separation of the two systems
before this Court can assert jurisdiction, requiring dismissal. Cf. Third Application Order at 88–90
(specifying additional PUC approval of assets for possible transfer required). Whether or not the
Commission may be getting close to making these necessary final decisions is irrelevant ; unless
and until they are actually made, Boulder cannot file a condemnation action.
C. The City cannot seek reconsideration of the Final Opinion in this case.
On numerous occasions, the City’s Response raises arguments that were previously
rejected in the Final Opinion, which the City did not appeal. This Court should not entertain these
arguments, especially since it sits as a limited-jurisdiction condemnation Court. See Tegeler v.
Schneider, 114 P. 288, 289 (Colo. 1911); see also Silver Eagle Servs. v. Pub. Utils. Comm’n, 768
P.2d 208, 209 (Colo. 1989) (PUC decision reviewable only under § 40–6–115).
For example, the City’s brief leads with the argument that it has the “constitutional right to
file a petition for eminent domain,” without regard to the PUC’s authority. Resp. 12–13. This was
one of the main arguments pressed by the City in the litigation that led to the Final Opinion. See
5 The City’s Amended Petition repeatedly relies upon the Cost Agreement to limit the scope of the
condemnation and the City’s just compensation obligations. Am. Pet ¶¶ 38, 43, 85–86.
6 See Third Application Order ¶ 6 (“We find that it is premature to designate any facilities inside
the substations for potential transfer to Boulder from Public Service.”).
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Final Opinion at 8 (“The City also maintains the PUC rulings ‘interfere with the City’s
constitutional authority to acquire the electric system serving the City.’”). The Final Opinion
squarely rejected it: “the PUC’s right to regulate a public utility is of utmost importance and will
not be overcome by a municipality’s exercise of its right to condemn.” Id. at 7. The City did not
seek Supreme Court review of this determination.
Similarly, the City argues that it should not have to complete the PUC proceedings because
doing so risks abrogating its constitutional right to eminent domain. Resp. at 16. This again
rehashes arguments already pressed and rejected in the Final Opinion litigation. Compare Final
Opinion at 8 (“Boulder repeatedly characterize[d] the PUC action as abrogating its constitutional
right to eminent domain.” (emphasis in original)), with id. (“The PUC action only delays Boulder’s
constitutional right to eminent domain … to provide PUC its constitutional right to investigate and
determine how the facilities should be assigned, divided, or jointly used….” (emphasis in
original)).7 Boulder cannot use this Court to revisit arguments it has already lost.
II. The City’s Own Conduct Belies Its Current Argument.
The City’s claim that it was free to move forward with condemnation as soon as it
7 The City spends considerable time discussing the length of the PUC Proceedings, yet does not
dispute that its proposed separation represents a monumental undertaking. The City acknowledges,
as it must, that “a delay, in and of itself, does not abrogate …[the] constitutional right of eminent
domain,” Resp. at 16, and that material issues remain pending at the PUC concerning the scope of
the proposed condemnation and the very property at issue. See Resp. at 17–18 (asserting that
factual questions remain in the PUC Proceedings regarding “the status of the separation, the nature
of the separation, [and] the plan for substations”). Finally, the City’s Response fails to
acknowledge its own responsibility for the length of the PUC Proceedings. But it is not necessary
or appropriate for this Court to consider or rule upon any of these issues or to second-guess the
PUC’s management of its docket in the complicated proceedings before it. Ultimately, the City’s
timing complaints are irrelevant to the question of whether this Court can assert subject matter
jurisdiction before the PUC proceedings are complete.
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abandoned its attempt to acquire county customers is not only legally wrong, it is also belied by
its own conduct. According to the City, “Judge LaBuda concluded that the Commission had
jurisdiction only because the City was planning to serve customers outside of the City.” Resp. at
4 (emphasis added). Under this theory, the PUC divested itself of jurisdiction as early as December
30, 2015, when it “dismiss[ed] the portion of the City of Boulder’s (Boulder’s) Verified
Application (Application) requesting acquisition of facilities used exclusively to serve Public
Service customers outside of the Boulder city limits.” Dec. 30, 2015, Interim Decision, etc. at 15,
¶ 2; see also Sept. 28, 2016, Second Supplemental Verified Application (Proceeding No. 15A-
0589E) (“Boulder is not seeking to serve any customers located outside Boulder’s jurisdictional
boundaries (the ‘City Limits’) in unincorporated Boulder County.”). However, the City continues
to this day to participate in the PUC Proceedings and has done so despite claiming that such
proceedings threaten to abrogate its constitutional power to condemn. If the City truly believed
that the PUC’s jurisdiction depended upon serving out-of-City customers, then it would have taken
steps long ago to terminate the PUC Proceedings.
III. Undisputed Colorado Supreme Court Authority Mandates Dismissal.
Even if issue preclusion were not dispositive, binding Supreme Court authority requires
dismissal. Courts recognize that the PUC has considerable expertise concerning utilities within the
state and thus disfavor judicial action undermining the PUC’s authority. See Integrated Network
Servs., Inc. v. Pub. Utils. Comm’n, 875 P.2d 1373, 1377 (Colo. 1994); Van Wyk v. Public Serv.
Co., 27 P.3d 377, 384 (Colo. 2001). The Colorado Supreme Court has explained, in no uncertain
terms, that when the PUC has jurisdiction over the property at issue, a condemnation court lacks
jurisdiction to proceed. Colorado & S. Ry. Co. v. Dist. Ct. in and for Tenth Jud. Dist., 493 P.2d
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657, 659 (Colo. 1972) (“Southern Railway”). Boulder fails to address this alternative basis for
dismissing the lawsuit. It does not even discuss Southern Railway, let alone try to distinguish it.
Accordingly, and for the reasons set forth in the Motion at pp. 14–18, the Court should dismiss
this lawsuit for this additional reason.
IV. Dismissal Is Required; not Unprecedented or Extraordinary.
The City argues that the PUC’s exercise of jurisdiction is unprecedented, see, e.g., Resp.
at ¶¶ 7, 8, that dismissal would be extraordinary, id. at 2, and thus the Court should instead proceed
on a parallel path with the PUC. Id. at 17. These arguments lack both factual and legal support.
First, this is not the proper forum for the City to challenge this Court’s or the PUC’s earlier
decisions. Second, dismissal would not be unprecedented. Judge LaBuda already dismissed an
identical lawsuit for identical reasons. And there are numerous examples of courts dismissing
condemnation cases on jurisdictional and other grounds. See, e.g., Southern Railway, 493 P.2d at
659–60. Third, the Civil Rules and binding caselaw mandate that the only action the Court can
take when it lacks jurisdiction—a threshold issue, which must be addressed before all others—is
to dismiss a lawsuit. In the absence of jurisdiction, the Court can do nothing else. See Mot. at 10
(citing C.R.C.P. 12(h)(3) and numerous cases). Boulder’s reliance on Miller v. Public Service
Company of Colorado, 272 P.2d 283 (1954) and Public Service Company of Colorado v. Shaklee,
784 P.2d 314 (Colo. 1989) to claim otherwise ignores the Southern Railway case and Judge
LaBuda’s Final Opinion, rejecting this argument in the situation where the property sought to be
condemned is public utility assets. Southern Railway at 166–67; Final Opinion at 10–11. Under
both opinions, it is the PUC, and not the City, that decides how Public Service’s public utility
assets “should be assigned, divided, or jointly used to protect the system’s effectiveness, reliability,
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and safety.” Final Opinion at 12. Until the PUC makes its final decisions, this Court has no
jurisdiction to conduct any “concurrent” proceedings.
V. There is no need for a hearing on the Motion to Dismiss.
The City requests a hearing but has not identified any factual disputes relevant to this
Motion (see Factual Clarification section supra at 3-4). Instead, the “wide range of factual
questions” the City identifies — such as “the status of the separation, the nature of the separation,
the plan for substations and the ongoing proceedings before the PUC”—Resp. at 17–18, are issues
to be addressed by the PUC. Indeed, this Court cannot conduct condemnation proceedings to
determine the amount of just compensation owed where “the nature of the separation … [and] the
plan for substations”—the very property to be taken—is unknown. See Southern Railway, 493
P.2d at 659; Final Opinion at 10, 12. Right now only the PUC should be conducting hearings.
Because there are no factual disputes relating to the issues to be decided by this Court a hearing is
unnecessary. See Rush Creek Solns. Inc. v. Ute Mountain Ute Tribe, 107 P.3d 402, 406 (fact
finding on Motion to Dismiss not required when material facts undisputed). The Court should deny
Boulder’s hearing request8 and grant the Motion.
IV. CONCLUSION
Because this Court cannot assert subject matter jurisdiction before the PUC completes its
required proceedings, this lawsuit must be dismissed.
8 In both the Final Opinion litigation and the earlier condemnation action, the Court denied requests
for oral argument and decided the cases on the papers. Sept. 3, 2014, Order (Case No.
14CV30047); Dec. 8, 2014, Order (Case No. 14CV30890).
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DATED this 3rd day of September, 2019.
FAEGRE BAKER DANIELS LLP
/s/ John R. Sperber
John R. Sperber, Atty. Reg. No. 22073
Brandee L. Caswell, Atty. Reg. No. 30706
Matthew D. Clark, Atty. Reg. No. 44704
Attorneys for Respondent
Public Service Company of Colorado
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
The undersigned certifies that on September 3, 2019, a copy of the foregoing REPLY IN
SUPPORT OF MOTION TO DISMISS FIRST AMENDED PETITION IN
CONDEMNATION FOR LACK OF SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION PURSUANT
TO COLO. R. CIV. P. 12(b)(1) was served on all counsel of record by the methods listed below:
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Boulder, CO 80306
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EXHIBIT 8
TO
REPLY IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO DISMISS FIRST AMENDED PETITION IN
CONDEMNATION FOR LACK OF SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION PURSUANT
TO COLO. R. CIV. P. 12(b)(1)
EXHIBIT 1 – Status of Required Documentation
4603285.1
Assets Outside of Substations
Documentation the Commission needs to
review and approve
Status Notes
Agreement for Payment of Costs
Ready for Intervenor and
Commission review
While this document is ready for review with respect
to the payment of costs relating to assets outside
substations, an amendment may be proposed at a
later time with respect to payment of costs relating to
assets inside substations.
Interim Cost Agreement Ready for Intervenor and
Commission review
Agreement Concerning Permanent, Non-
Exclusive Easements and Other Necessary
Real Property Rights
Ready for Intervenor and
Commission review
Exhibit 5A – Facilities List
In Process
Public Service needs an
executable version of Exhibit
5A and has requested such
from the City.
The data on many pages of
the exhibit is so small that
the exhibit is unreadable in
PDF. Public Service has
asked the city to reformat the
spreadsheets for those
pages so that the data is
readable.
Public Service disagrees that the Exhibit 5A filed by
the City on June 28, 2019, is correct. The Note
Boulder added on June 28, 2019, in the header on
pages 1 and 2 to the exhibit is inaccurate; changes
were made to the exhibit which were not previously
disclosed and which are not correct (such as
customer data for gas only customers being included
in the Highly Confidential Lot Centroid Location
section); and two exit feeders from Substation F that
interconnect with the IBM-owned distribution system
are still in Exhibit 5A even though the City does not
currently have Commission authorization to acquire
any facilities that serve IBM.
Exhibit 5B – Real Property Rights List In Process
Public Service has resolved
the open items on Exhibit
5B, for example proofreading
Part Five from the extensive
The Exhibit 5B, made up of Parts One through Five,
Boulder filed by Notice on August 2, 2019, was sent
to Boulder for review, not for filing. There were open
items in several parts and the revised exhibit needs
some explanation given the significant changes in
both content and form since the exhibit was originally Colorado PUC E-Filings System
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supporting documents and
making some resulting
changes. The finalized
Revised Exhibit 5B is ready
to send to Boulder for review
with information on changes
made.
Public Service is drafting an
explanation of the five parts
of Exhibit 5B for filing when
the final exhibit is filed.
filed on October 26, 2019.
Therefore, Public Service does not agree that the
Exhibit 5B filed by the City on August 2, 2019, is
final.
Public Service has not received any comments from
the City since the first drafts were sent to the City in
June, however, we note that the real property
exhibits the City filed with the condemnation case are
different in significant respects from the revised Ex
5B. The Company does know if this is because the
City believes 5B is not accurate and complete or if
there is some other reason for that.
Easement Sharing Agreement
Ready for Intervenor and
Commission review
The Agreement was written in the context of the
Exhibit 5B in existence at the time. A potential
Amendment of the Agreement, reflecting the revised
Exhibit 5B, needs to be discussed with Boulder.
However Public Services does not believe such an
Amendment would be material to Intervenor or
Commission consideration of the substantive safety
and reliability terms of the Agreement
Assets Inside Substations
Documentation the Commission needs to
review and approve
Status Notes
Application for the designation of assets
inside substations for transfer
To be drafted upon final
agreement being reached on
issues within substations as
between the City and Public
Service
Source of material disagreement and subject of
Public Service’s Petition for Declaratory Orders.
Boulder does not believe the Commission must
designate substation assets for transfer prior to
commencement of a condemnation action for such
assets. Public Service, IBM and Tri-State believe
Commission transfer approval is required and is a
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pre-condition to condemnation of assets inside
substations
The last time the Commission reviewed substation
proposals it found “compelling” evidence existed to
deny Boulder’s request for transfer approval for
assets inside substations. The Commission needs to
be satisfied that any substation proposals ultimately
agreed-to by the City and the Company, will result in
safe, effective and reliable service.
Substation “List of Assets” – Both a Facilities
List and a Real Property Rights List
In Process While Boulder filed a list earlier this summer, that list
is not complete and accurate. The final version of
the List is dependent upon certain terms being
negotiated in the Co-Location Agreements
(discussed below) such as ownership of substations
and easement rights. The substation list of assets is
also where substation exit feeders should be listed
(for those existing substations in which Boulder is
ultimately authorized to acquire facilities)
Co-Location Agreement with respect to
Substations B and D, a new Boulder
substation adjacent to Substation A, a new
Boulder substation inside an addition to
Substation C, and a new Boulder substation
at its wastewater treatment plant site.
In Process The Commission’s decision with respect to its role in
reviewing and approving substation proposals will
have a material effect on the negotiations that are
underway. See the Table filed as Exhibit 2 for more
information about the purpose and scope of this
agreement.
Co-Location Agreement with respect to
Substations F
Negotiations yet to
commence
Public Service believes efficiencies will be gained in
negotiating this agreement after certain issues are
resolved in the other Co-Location Agreement.
However, there are unique issues associated with
co-location with Substation F that need to be
addressed which is why a separate Co-Location
Agreement is required.
The Company believes Tri-State and IBM should be
parties to this agreement. Boulder has objected to
IBM being part of this agreement which is a source of
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material disagreement.
Tri-State’s work on a Facilities Study, currently
underway, may affect its thinking on this Agreement
Amendment to Agreement for Payment of
Costs to incorporate substation elements
Negotiations yet to
commence
Public Service provided a draft substation Agreement
for Payment of Costs on January 31, 2019. The draft
addressed all time periods (pre Go/No Go and post
Go/No Go1 all the way up to Cut Over). Boulder
strongly objected to addressing anything other than
Facilities Studies and Detailed Design Drawings and
therefore PSCo switched over to negotiating an
agreement just on those topics. An agreement was
executed and reached that covers just these costs
which are the Pre Go/No Go time period costs.
An Agreement for Payment of Substation-related
Costs for the post Go/No Go time period, perhaps in
the form of an Amendment to the Agreement for
Payment of Costs for assets outside substations, will
be needed.
The City prepared an initial proposed draft
amendment. The draft amendment was filed as
Exhibit 9 to the City’s Notice of Proposed Process
filed on June 12, 2019. Negotiations regarding this
draft have not commenced. The Company has had
to prioritize the work and told Boulder it would work
first on the more complex and longer time frame
items - Exhibit 5B and substation co-location
agreements.
1 As defined in the Agreement for Payment of Costs for assets outside substations, (i) the Go/No Go Decision is the pre-separation decision by the
City to move forward with Municipalization, after a Condemnation Case, or an agreement in lieu of a Condemnation Case, and (ii) the “Cut Over
Date” refers to the date when the separation of the Boulder System from the PSCo System is complete, so that (1) PSCo's System has the same
safety, reliability and effectiveness as it did prior to the commencement of Separation activities; (2) the PSCo System and the Boulder System can
each be operated separately from the other; and (3) Boulder is willing and able to begin serving all of its customers.