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CITY OF BOULDER,COLORADO
BOARDS AND COMMISSIONSMEETING SUMMARY FORM
NAME OF BOARD/COMMISSION:
Water ResourcesAdvisory Board
DATE OF MEETING:
February 26, 2007
NAME/TELEPHONE OF PERSON PREPARING SUMMARY:
Jennifer Gray,303-441-4073
NAMESOFMEMBERS,COUNCIL, STAFF, AND INVITED GUESTS PRESENT:
BOARD MEMBERS–
KenWilson,Jim Knopf, RobinByers, Bart Miller, Kelly DiNatale
STAFF –
NedWilliams, BobHarberg, Douglas Sullivan, Bret Linenfelser, Ridge Dorsey, Megan Monroe,
Jennifer Gray- Secretary
WHAT TYPE OF MEETING (BOLDONE)[REGULAR]
[SPECIAL][QUASI-JUDICIAL]
Agenda Item1– Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at6:03p.m.
AgendaItem 2 – Meeting Minutes –January 22, 2007
Motion: Motion byKnopf to accept the meeting minutes with corrections
Seconded:Byers
Vote: 5-0 infavor, Passed
Agenda Item3– Public participationand comment.
There was none. Public Participation was closed.
Agenda Item4– Final recommendationon Mercurylimits in theIndustrial Pretreatment Program,
including proposedrules to requiretheinstallation of amalgam separators in somedentaloffices.
Dorsey, Monroe and Linenfelserpresented on the background and changes of the project since their last
visit to the board and askedfor a finalrecommendationon theproject.
WRAB questionsand comment:
Byers:Amin Delagah
Have some offices lost the Best Management Practices certification?
(Partnersfor a Clean Environment)
: Yes,butnot necessarily because of Mercury requirements.
There is more to the certification thanjust mercury.
Byers:Dorsey
Howdo youget the numbers you are presenting tonight?: The measurements are
directly from the reports at the analytical laboratories.
Byers:Dorsey
Has therebeen a significant decreasein dental offices?:No,the number of dental
officershas remained fairly level over time.
DiNatale:Dorsey
Didyourun a blankduring the Boulder dental sampling?:We have runblanks
in thepast, butdidnot do thatfor this pastsampling event.
Byers:Delagah
Have you looked intovet clinics?: We havethought ofit, but ourprogram
doesn’t currently have thefundingfor thatoutreach.
Byers:
What is the foundation for the statement from the city concerning the costsfor this
Williams
programnot being passed onto dentalcustomers?: Basedonour conversations with
some dental offices, they arenot able to pass on the cost because of insuranceprogram
regulations.
Byers:
Idonot think this is a gooddraft of theregulation.It is too long, the amalgammachines
arenotgood enough to be mandatory, the lineof responsibility is not inplace, and thenotice of
non-compliance needs tobemore specific about whatthe dentistis deficientin.
Byers:Dorsey
DoesEPAhave to approve this afterCity Council?: Thereis a 30-day comment
period and they are involved.
Dorsey:
The city attorney’s office prepared theregulation and future legalquestions will need to
bedirected at them.
Wilson:Dorsey
How manydentists commented onthis?: We hadthree writtencommentsand
spoke to some on thephone.
Public Hearing: No public comments.
Motion: Wilson movesthat Water ResourcesAdvisoryBoard (WRAB) recommends this rule and
furthermore asks the City Manager to appriseCityCouncil on the program.
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Seconded:Knopf
Discussion:
Byers:
I cannot support the motion based onthe penalties and the language onwho is responsible for the
rule.
Vote: 4-1, motion passed
Agenda Item5–Update on the Stormwater Strategic Plan
Harberg, Sullivan presentedon thedraft Stormwater Strategic Plan and asked for WRAB feedback.The
presentation was shortened in order to accommodate to a public hearingfollowing thisagenda item.
WRAB memberswere askedto send detailedquestion, comments, concerns and additional information
through emailchannels. Thiswill appearona futureWRAB agenda for furtherdiscussion.
WRAB questionsand comment:
Knopf:
A sense ofhowwe are going to fund thiswould beimportant to include.
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Byers:Sullivan
Will Gunbarrelbe included in this?: The Gunbarrelprojectsranked 5 in tier one
and it's unlikely it will receive any funding in the next20 years. I will get moreinformationfor
you forthe Aprilmeeting.
Agenda Item6- Final recommendationon South Boulder Creek Flood Study, including hydrology,
climatologyand flood maps.
Harberg alongwith consultants and Peer Review EvaluationPanel (PREP) representatives presentedon the
South BoulderCreekFlood Study and askedfor a recommendationfrom WRAB.
WRAB questions:
Wilson:Harberg
Whyare there about two and a half timesmore properties in theAE zone?: It is
using our new hydrologymodelingtechniques.
DiNatale:
Wehave a lot more properties ina regulated floodplain. Atwhat point in time would
Harberg
the propertiesberegulated in accordancewith these flood designations?: We are
DiNatale
projecting a yearoutfrom now, after the approval of FEMA.: They wouldberegulated
Harberg
beforea flood mitigationstudy?: Yes.
Byers:Harberg
What percentagesare in the AEzone from the city and the county?: City: 652
structures, County: 458structures. This is detailed in an attachment.
Public Questions:
Alan D. Katz, 103GenesseCourt:Harberg
Howdoes this account forfuturedevelopments?:
The studydoes not take into accountfuturedevelopments. Futuredevelopments would follow
floodplain regulations.
Tom Christoffel, 2285 HillsdaleCircle:
How is it that multifamily structure can land it two
Harberg
different zones?:These reports aredrafts and I am happy to look at each property.
Maybe there are some corrections to make. WRAB is not approving those lists; the regulatory
agencies will do that later.
Gifford Millard, 1051Gifford:
What if there is a structure on my property, but it is notmy
Harberg
primary residence?Do I have toget flood insurance?: Your primary residencemay not
need flood insurance if it is not in the actual floodplain.
Spence Haulick, 665 Emporim:
Should there be somemechanism in place to change the runoff
Harberg
patterns thatwill change the studies you have done todate.:Wehave not considered this.
Right now we are justasking FEMA to review our current data and analysis and mitigation studies
will come at a later time.
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Ben Binder, 720 S. 21 Street:
Concerning the CU South Berm area, what is the city’s policies
concerning floodplains?Have they changed?The city opposed long-earthen leviesbefore.
Wilson:
We donothavejurisdiction for this property.
Carl Williamson:
Whydidn’t FEMA like this plan in the past? What has changedso we are
Harberg
confident FEMAwill approve it now?: The results we have today have been more
thoroughly reviewed.
Public Hearing:
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Ann Christoffel, 2285Hillsdale Circle:
Because this does impact people’s lives, I donot think
the board should approve this while there are so manypieces still floating around.I don’tthink
this is ready for a federal agency.
John Weiner, 135 ManhattanDrive:
Concerning theHogan annexation,Igot the impression
that city staff wasnot directly going to address this large issue if the time didnot suit. I think it is
unsettling to hear thissince there are so many people affected by it. Additionally, I am notsure
that you realize how much it affects people if you make a smallmistake and put a residenceon
flood zone list.
JeffMcWhirter, 5435 Illini Way:
Citizens havebeeninvolvedandthere has been good thathas
come out of it.The amount ofwork that comes out is staggering and I wouldhope that the city
could take a breather and slow the processdown a bit.I am not sure thecity is lookingat all of the
aspectsof this; an example beingof the difference theflood would make if shiftedby two miles.
There are a lot of flaws in the study.
Alan D. Katz, 103GenesseCourt:
Ifthe board has been abletoread the documents receivedby
this meeting, then do as youwish. Ifnot,please donot moveforwardnow.
WRAB Discussion:
DiNatale:
If WRAB does recommendthesereports, what can thepublicdo to stay involved?
Harberg
:Wewill continue towork with residentson their specificproperties inquestion.There
will be a public hearingwithPlanning Boardin March and with City Council inApril.
Miller:
Is there a clearprocess for resolving issuesproperty owners have regardingnon-residence
Harberg
structures in the floodplain?:I am sure we canbut I havenot specified a clear process.
Miller:Harberg:
Whenwill you look into mitigation? Therewill be future mitigation planning
when it comes time, which is after FEMA approves the study and maps.
Knopf:
The insurance impacts seem to rely on mitigation.When arepeople beginning to be
Harberg
responsible?How can theyget outof the floodplain map?: In May of 2008. Therewill
be a map revision process.
Byers:
Keep thereal estate professionals inthe loop.
Harberg:
Wewill continue to modify the reportsbasedonfeedback fromthe public, thepeer
review andWRAB.
Byers (to the peer reps.):Doug Laiho
Isthere anythingin this that is a bigdeal-breaker?: It has
evolved andwe are very close totheend product. No deal-breakers.
Motion:The Water ResourcesAdvisoryBoard (WRAB) recommends the South BoulderCreek
Flood Mappingstudy be submittedto FEMA, butbefore final submittal, staff would continue to
address technical issues to adegreepractical, and developpoliciesand recommend those to city
councilto ensure only portionsof properties located in the future regulated floodplain be subjected
to the rules. Staff should develop a policy and recommend to councilhow to handle the development
or annexationofproperties that are not currently,butwould be subject to regulationunder the
newest floodplain.
Seconded: Knopf
Wilson:
PREP shas given usgoodfeedback. I thinkwehad stepped back,butnow isnotthe
appropriate time.While otherboards look more politically,we are looking at the technicalities. I
think we should move this along.
Miller:
Inkeepingoptions open for futuremitigation, wouldFEMA in any wayhinderour
KnopfHarberg
options?: Therewill alreadyhave to be more workdone inregardsto theberm.:
Correct, right now it is not a certifiedflood levy.
Knopf:Byers
We may need to addsomething aboutWRABbeinguneasy about theberm.: There
hasbeen a court case and therefore mightbehandled in a wholedifferentrealm.
Vote:5-0, motion passed
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Agenda Item7-
Matters From Staff–
Williams
presented a revisedWRAB calendar.
Williams
presented thepublic comments concerning the rules for thewaterbudget methodology.
Byers
asked for updateson the South Platte Wells trial. The trial is in its thirdweek andit is
expected that the city of Boulder sidewill beginnext week.The case is expected tobe completed
in March.
Mattersfrom Board –
The March meetingwill beKen’s last meeting. Miller will organize a social gathering to celebrate
Ken’s departure.
AgendaItem 8 – Discussion of schedulefor future meetings.
Agenda Item9- Adjournment
Motion: Motion toadjourn by Miller
Seconded by Byers
Vote: 5-0 infavor, passed.
Meeting adjourned at 9:57 PM
Date, Time, and Location of Next Meeting:
Thenext meeting will be Monday, March19–7p.m.,regular meeting, Municipal Services Center,5050
East PearlStreet unless otherwisedecidedby staff and theboard.
These are summaryminutes.Audio tapes are available through Central Recordsforfull record.
Minutes approved by:____________________
Date: ____________________
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