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2 - Minutes, 7/14/03CITY OF BOULDER, COLORADO AND COMMISSIONS MEETING SUMMARY FORM NAM~ OF BOARD/COMMISSION: Transportation Advisory Board DATE OF MEETING: July 14, 2003 NAME/TELEPHONE OF PERSON PREPARING SUMMARY: Robm Madel, 303-441-4073 NAMCS OF MEMBERS, COUNCIL, STAFF AND INVITED GUESTS PRESENT: BOARD MEMBERS -TAB: John Tayer, Jim Rettew, Brant L~ebmann, Kr~sta Holland, Bill Roettker STAFF - Tracy Wmfree, Mike Sweeney, Noreen Walsh, B~ll Cowern, Randall Rutsch, Robm Madel, secretary WHAT TYPE OP MEETING [REGULAR] Pre-dinner mecting with Debra Baskett from the U.S. 36 TMO Baske[t d~scussed the status of the U S. 36 MIS with respect to current plans for commuter rail and Bus Rapid Transit Baskett also discussed Che busmess Eco pass situaUOn Agenda Item 1- Call to Order The meetmg was called to order at 6 03 p m Agenda Item 2- Meeting Minutes from June 9, 2003. The mmuCes wera approved as wntten Brant Liebmann motioned to approve the minutes. Krista Holland seconded the motion. The vote was 4-0 in favor oF the motion. Bill Roettker did not vote because he was not a board member yet Non-Agenda Item - Swearing in of new board member. Bill Roettker, lhe newesC TAB member, wac sworn m Roettker replaces Jerry Wyss who res~gned m June 2003 Agenda Item 3- General Citizen Part~cipation David Miller, 902 9~h St., Boulder, gave the staff some pictures of a car that crashed mto h~s front lawn He hves at 9'- an~ora and is m favor of the NTMP program for his neighborhood. He said he understands budget constramts bu[ there aze no low hangmg fruit to be found m the neighborhood. He wants the TAB to consider what can be done to address the problems m his ne~ghborhood Susie Balnt, 760 9~h St., Boulder, spoke abou[ [he 9ih S[ NTMP. She satd she is dis[ressed [o hear that [he budget was eltmmated because 9'h St conGnues to be a problem and no one m the staff ~s w~llmg to address whaPs gomg on The strect wasdt designed to be a ma~or corridor and Chautauqua Park doesn't help bccause the park personnel refuse to address the parkmg problems Thc actrvit~es [here azen't inc~dental anymore, they are frequent She said the city could use some creahve parkmg soluhons. Kris Miller, 902 9`~ St., Boulder, asked thc TAB to reconsider [heir dec~s~on to cut fundmg from 9'" St or to reallocate money to the program She said the ne~ghbors have been lookmg at op[ions for low hangmg fruit and has heard from staff that there are none. There is no educaGOn and enforcement A lot of [raffic m~ugation tools are driven by federal regulauons for safety and not for qual~ty of hfe. The NTMP program addresses quahty of life issues but even that has been cut The Phase I petdion has already been completed There is no budget for Phase II enforcement She said she doesn't know what education would consis[ of She sa~d she hasn't seen the speed display trailer m the neighborhood m a while TAB Discussion TAB d~scussion covered the ne~ghborhood's eligib~l~ty for the Neighborhood Parkmg Program, [he speed d~splay trailers and the accident rate since Broadway construchon began General Citizen Participation was closed. Agenda Item 4- Public hearing and TAB consideration of a recommendation concerning the sidewalk missing link criteria and prioritization method. Noreen Walsh described the staff proposal Some of the sidewalk pro~ects are smaller and have a lower cost than others Some of the pro~ects are scveral blocks long and are bemg evaluated as stand alone pro~ects with poss~ble CIP fundmg Once Yhe categories are determmed, the pro~ects will be ptiorit~zed accordmg to wh~ch onea will be completed first Walsh said she hoped to work through how to pr~oritrze the pro~ects with Yhe TAB Chen brmg a list of pnoritized pro~ects to the TAB The budgct for the sidewalka missmg lmks program is $75K which is down from $290K m las[ year's budget Transportatton Advasory Baard Summary Mmutes ~ July 14, 2003 Page 1 TAB Questions TAB questions covered clarif~cations of what the staff was askmg of the TAB, thc diffcrence between the s~dewalk ]mks program and thc s~dewalk replacement progrnm, the d~ffercnce 6etween the suggested ca[egories m the staff pxoposal, issues around Che presence or lack of property owner support, and the pubhe process that the staff has completed so far Citizen Participation Charlotte Sorenson, 603 Spruce St., Boulder, was therc representmg Walk Bouldcr and said she applauds the staft for supportmg this program. Sorenson said that as a pedestuan she g~eatly appreciates the efforC and the recognUion of walkmg as a pnmary mode of transportation She has been workmg wrth Landon Hffyard from the school dis[rict to set up a walk-to-school program She said the population m Boulder is agmg and they will do everythmg they can to help develop the missmg sidewalk Imks program mto a prionty program She said they will also do everythmg [hey can to keep bikes out of sidewalks She hopes that there is a]me dem m[he budget for pedestr~ans Fred Luiszer, 2510 Taft Dr., #210, Boulder, a[tended the publtc meehng m March and said [hat there were probably only four of about 30 people at the meetmg who were pro-s~dewalks He said he would like a sidewalk on h~s street and that saFety should be the top priouty There are lots of college kids m h~s neighborhood He offered to generate some data ~f that would help Susan Balnt, 760 9~' St., Boulder, said that sidewalks are wonderful but she feels [he sidewalk lmks program should be fashionad hke the NTMP and lhe c~ty shouldn'[ cram tt down people's throaCS She is kymg to prolect what lrtfle privacy she has There arc places where sidewalks are appropriate She sa~d [hc ammosity with the 91h St residents began because no-one asked the residents what they wan[. The effort should be posdive and mteractive wrth everyone worlang together .Iulia Schwab, 1529 Lincoln Pl., Boulder, she said that she has thc only house on the small block that faces the street. She said she and her ne~ghbors don't want a sidewalk and they want to save the c~ty some money She said that the area where the parkmg ~s presents an ~ssue and the stadents walk through there m groups Her house is six feet from thc s[reet The ne~ghbors have landscapmg and there is no room for a sidewalk She said on her block there is no room for emcrgency vehiclcs and traffic is always a concern She thmks that sidewalks on her block are a ~oke and all thrcc property owners on the block are m agreement Marv Street, Boulder, lives on Ihe south s~de of Mt St Gertrude's Academy and therc is a sidewalk on the north side of Lmcoln The only people she ever sees usmg thc sidewalk are from the academy. Most people who walk [hrough there use [he street beoause the sidewalks are too narrow Adding a new s~dewalk is a waste of money People from Chautauqua Park walk through the area and they use the strects Thc south s~de of Baselme would be a great place to start to improve the area Better parking there would help On her stree[ ~oggers, suollers and dog walkers all use the strcets She suggested w~demng the extsGng s[reet Kris Miller, 902 9~h SA, Boulder, sa~d that she thmkv cons~stency w~th exishng programs should be added to the 6st of criteua. Residents of her ncighborhood started addressmg s~dewalk issues and as they went mto the NTMP program they found out that they don't qual~fy for that program because there ~sn't enough pedestuan traff~c She satd that they would l~ke to ~se some pedestnan money for crosswalks She sa~d she would like th~s prog~am to have the same critena as the NTMP She compazed an area along Basehne that has the same d~stance as the area under considerahon along 9°i St The arca along Basel~ne has ] 0 hghts and pedestnan crossmg and the samc distance along 9°' St has only two. Mike Shimmin,1985 Kalmia, Boulder, said he dcesn't need or want s~dewalks m h~s ne~ghborhood On his block there are no curbs, gutters or sidewalks Sidewalks would dimimsh his property value because the property ~s umque. There are e~ght houses on hts block, and four of the e~ght are violently opposed to sidewalks Hc has hved m hts house for 21 ycars and dozens of pedcstrians go by every day He has never been aware of any safety problems He encouraged puttmg the desires of the ad~acent res~dents first and the environmental impact second TAB Discussion TAB discussion covered how the hst was compiled, the spec~fic cr~teria that the staff has cons~dered, Che process after the prioritizaGon, the steps to be taken after the TAB meetmg, whether ot not the TAB members were mterested m suggesdng a weighYmg scheme, poss~ble weightmg schemes and priaitization of the cr~tena by ~mportance to TAB members Krista Holland motioned that the staff weight the priorities with safety-related priorities higher than other priorities. Bill Roettker seconded the motion. There was contmued d~scussion about what safety means Holland defined safety for the purposes of thc mohon Transportat~on Admsory Boar~l Summary Minutes July 14, 2003 Page 2 Krista Holland amended the motion to say that it includes all priorities stated in the proposal and includes safety, which is the highest priority with all others aUout the same in priority. Bill Roettker seconded the amendment. J~m Rettew said that he is opposed to the weightmg schame and was concerned that d he voted agamst the mohon it would look hke he ~s vodng agamst safety He said he wanCs moie sub~ecGvtty m the pnonhzatton The vote was 4-1 in favor of the motion. Jim Rettew voted against the motion. Further discussion mcluded the process foc takmg sidewalks off the hst, the concept of emment domam and right oF access, the eights of ownership and the flowchaet the staff proposed Krista Holland motioned that the TAB recommend the staff recommendation far categorizing and prioritizing with the amendments voted on in the previous motion. ,Tim Rettew seconded the motion. The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion. Agenda Item 5- Public hearing and TAB consideration of a recommendation to City Council wncerning the Transportation Master Plan Updatc - Phase 3: Plan Development. Randall Rutsch presented the Copic He addressed two pomts that were raised du~mg the study sess~on with thc city council Rutsch gave a bnef update on the work lhe staff ~s domg on Ihe Web stte and said [hat at the next mectmg he would present a drafl plan TAB Questions Quesuons covered whether or not the staff has determined a"marquis" qucsGOn for the updaCe, usmg mob~l~ty as a measure mstead of congesuon and the use of goals versus measurements Citizen Participation Kurt .iohnson, 777 Dellwood Ave., Boulder, said tha[ he would Lke to see a measurc for CO2 added ro the plan Ru[sch said that COZ modehng ~s based on DRCOG numbers. TAB Discussion Discussion mcluded the upcommg pubhc participaGOn process, the focus on regtonal areas and the need to devote add~tional resources to reg~onal mterests. John Taye~ suggeated that the wrrent mtergovernmental staff is too thm and the city should identify the nced for addtdonal rasources m the Action Plan Jim Rettew motioned to recommend approval of Phase 3: Plan Development. Krista Holland seconded the motion. The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion. John Tayer commended the staff on [he great work they have done on [his llem so far Agenda Item 6- Staff brie~ng and TAB input on the preliminary 2005-2010 Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) project submittals. Randall Ru[ach discussed the submittals He sa~d that thc staff sGll does not have the sohcitaCmn, final criCeria or trmcl~ne for thc TIP He discussed spernfio pro~ect recommendations based on last year's cateua Rutsch said that concep[ually there are projects m[he north, center and south sectrons of town TAB Questions Quest~ons covered addmg NTMP to the pro~ects list, TDM related ~tems which are proposed on a different list, the proposed eTfechve biker courses, the specifics of certam pro~ects and enhanced pedestrian crossmgs TAB Discussion D~scussion mcluded speci5c pro~ects that the members would like to see added, such as bike lanes on Broadway, partiwlar pro~ects that the members like such as real hme transtt mfo and the need for spec~fic pro~ects such as the underpass at Elmer's Twom~le Creek and 28°i St, both of which have matchmg fundmg from the transportation department Agenda Item 7 - Matters From 5taff: • Tracy Wmfree descri6ed the award the city of Boulder recerved for crosswalk compl~ance and pedestrian cxossmg treatmenC ~mplementation Wmfree said that there is re~mbursement for a staff membet to go to an associated conference and that the staff inember w~ll piobably be B~ll Cowern • Tracy Wmfree gave a list of all the boards and commiss~ons to the TAB members to assist m[he~r outreach efforts Wmfree said Chat at the nexC meeGng, hnks to vanoas pubhc enury calendars would be d~scussed • Tracy Wmfree distnbuted a one-page summary of the gu~dmg pnnciples for the budget Wmfree discussed the budget cuts if addttronal cuts are necessary • Tracy Wmfree upda[ed the board on regional transportat~on issues. Wmfree said that the Bus Rapid Transportation Adv~.rary Board Summary Mueutes .luly 14, 2003 Page 3 Trans~[ component of the US 36 MIS has been nearly removed from considerahon under [he FastTracks proposal RTD has made RTD and CDOT are closc to sigmng a consultant contract for complet~on of the Environmental Impact Stalement Wmfrec went to the Boulder County Regional Transit Committee meedng The committee wants a long-term vision Por transit for Boulder County and is developmg ideas for fmancmg ophons Wmfrec said that the neighborhood Ecopass program is m good shape but thc busmess Ecopass program is on a roller coaster nde RTD has suggested some service level changes for Boulder that could raise Uie price of passes by a s~gmficant amount. The slakeholder group is standmg solidly behmd the concept of no service level changes Matters From the Board: • The members reques[ed havmg a tollow-up to the board re[reat at the August TAB meetrng • Brnnt Liebmann asked if the AOP service route will stay the same as d is now once the Broadway bndge construcUon ~s completed Wmfcee sa~d thaC ~C would hkely stay as iC ~s now • Krista Holland said that [he Greenways Advisory Commrttee toured [he Elmer's underpass pro~ect area Holland sa~d [hat the underpass and pa[h will require a lo[ of work Holland dtscussed the Greenways Master Plan pnonhzahon and [he poss~bility of the Greenways Program workmg w~th the Army Corps of Engmeers on a portion of [he Elmer's pro~ect • Krista Holland discusscd the 28`"-30"' St Plan She said therc have been two meehngs where the message from the public is that people don't want the new urbamsm, they wan[ parkmg m front of busmesses Holland said that Louise Grauer from the Plamm~g DepaztmenC would attend the August TAB mee[mg to d~scuss [he plan and provide a fac[ sheet. • Jim Rettew said he is concerned about the cost of the repavmg pro~ect on Table Mesa Wmfree said the pro~ect mcludes mstallation of an asphalt overlay that will reduce noise levels by as much as 3 db, which ~s sigmficant, usmg a product called Nova Chtp The noise levels on Table Mesa are h~gher now than they were before the pro~ect started and the city promised thc xesidenta that they would perform no~se mitigation if that siWahon oceurred Nova Chip may requ~re more mamtenance but it could extend the Lfe of the concrete and could be easier to scrape off and redo than concrete • 7im Rettew announeed that he is formmg a eommrttee to mn foc mty counc~l • Bill Roettker said [hat the Jefferson Pazkway proposal ~s gaimng steam CDOT ic reviewmg the Envtronmental Impaet StaYemen[ and explonng finanemg opuons Agenda Item 8- Discussion of Future Meeting Agenda The 7uly 14, 2003 meeung will mclude a sCaff bnefing on Yhe TMP Update and the 17`h St Bike Lane pro~ect Agenda Item 9 - Adjournment Brant Liebmann motioned to adjourn the meeting. Bill Roettker seconded the motion. The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion. The meetmg was ad~ourned at 9 42 p m Date, Time, and Location of Next Meeting: ^ August 11, 2003, 6 00 p m Transportation Advisory Board regular meeung, Muruc~pal Buildmg Counc~l Chambers Transportatwn Advisory Board S~~mmary Mueutes July 14, 2003 Page 4