Minutes - Transportation 12/09/2002TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD
FINAL MINUTES
9, 2002
BOARD MEMBERS PR~SENT
John Tayer, Jim Rettew, Brant Liebmann, Jerry Wyss, Krista Holland
STArF MEMBERS PR~S~NT
Tracy Winfree, Mike Sweeney, Randall Rutsch, Ray Moe (LSA and Associates) and
Robin Madel, secretary
AGENDA ITEM 1
Call to Order
John Taver, chair, called the meeting to order at 6:03 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM 2
General Citizen Participation
Lvnn SeEal, Boulder, said that she would like to see Canyon, Walnut, Pearl and 29~h St.
at Crossroads Mall added to the grid in the TMP as through streets. She said thaC it would
change the dynamics of the Crossroads Meetings to make those changes.
General Citizen Participation was closed.
AGENDA IT~M 3
Staff briefing and TAB input on the Transportation Master Plan Update - Phase 3.
Randall Rutsch gave a presentation on fhe TMP update. Rutsch introduced Ray Moe, of
LSA Assoc., the lead consultant working on the TMP who is also working with the city
on the Jobs and Housing Project which influenced the TMP. Rutsch presented three
specific items: 7obs-Housing project scenario results, ideas from the Study Committee
on TMP goals and objectives, and the iterative approach to Phase 3 of the TMP Update.
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Randall Rutsch said that the two big items that bad changed recently are that Che Jobs-to
Population project is now called the Jobs/Housing project and RTD funding to the
Community Transit Network has decreased drastically.
Rutsch discussed the transporCation analysis with respect to tbe Jobs and Housing Project.
Several scenarios were evaluated using current funding amounts and full funding of the
1996 Transportation Master Plan. He showed a graphical representation of the options in
terms of funding requirements. The scenarios include the existing situation, current
trends, alternatives one, two and three and current trends at capacity.
Rutsch said that in evaluating the alternatives the staff used known information - current
funding versus full funding. Full funding for the 1996 TMP would require $200M more
than current funding.
TAB questions:
Krista Aolland asked about the accuracy of the model. Ray Moe said Yhat the model is a
great planning tool and the data is a good indicator. Holland asked if the uncertainty in
the results of the different scenarios would cause an option to miss the goal. Moe said
that the model can be calibrated with real world data.
Jim Rettew asked if the goals and strategies to meet the goals are reasonable. Rutsch said
that Yhings have definitely changed but and the rest of the TMP Update process will entail
considering what it will take to achieve current goals and if those goals/objectives need to
be adjusted.
Jim Rettew asked what funding will be needed if RTD drasCically reduces its funding to
the Community Transit Network. Rutsch said it would be $lOM per year for 20 years.
Tracy Winfree said that the goal for the Boulder County communities is to pool current
funding resources to continue existing and soon-to-be-in-place transit services. .
Brant Liebmann asked if Jobs-Housing Scenario 3 is the most radical option. Rutsch said
that the Jobs/Housing project considered it the most radical option and it is based on such
items as Urban Design, Alternative Modes, floor density, etc.
John Tayer asked if the increased funding associated with community growth was
included in the funding calculations. Mike Sweeney said that it had not been factored in.
Rutsch asked if any board members feel that the criteria used to evaluate meeting goals
should be changed. Brant Liebmann said that the goal is to reduce Vehicle Miles
Traveled and the other goals are secondary, Jim Rettew said that the criteria used to
evaluate the goals should be linked to Che goals. Jerry Wyss added that the goals should
be reachable but he also said Yhat we should keep the same goals going for continuity and
he urged caution in establishing new criteria and goals. The board decided to put off the
discussion for a future TAB meefing about specific criteria.
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Jim RetCew asked if tbe iterations will include iCems that are more in Che city's control or
those things that are out of our control like RTD funding for the CTN. Rutsch said that
the staff will do both. Moe said that how funds are used in the city is an importanC part of
the evaluation.
John Tayer recommended that the iterations are presented to the TAB for review before
going to the general public.
TAB Discussion
Krista Holland recommended taking a step back and looking at bigger picture options
than have been presented in the TMP such as adding perimeter parking and shuttle buses
around Boulder and creating a car free Boulder or creating rail links to Boulder County
towns. Staff and other board members reminded Holland that the first phase of the TMP
Update determined that we will "Stay the Course" from an overall policy perspecCive. At
the same time, we are looking for policy refinements particularly in the four focus areas:
Regional, TDM, Multi-modal Corridors and Funding. John Tayer said that he has heard
from some people that we should build interchanges on Foothills Parkway. He said that
the extremes exist but the Phase 1 evaluation has already looked at those extremes and
we are trying to create the right balance.
Krista Holland said that she worked on the bike portion of the update. She said it seemed
like a lot of busy work. Jerry Wyss said that committees have no power because they are
not policy making, they are more for gaining public input. Tracy Winfree said that we are
working on portions of the plan for which we will "stay the course" versus those thaf will
be refined, such as the four policy focus areas. The system plan components of the TMP
need to be updated to make sure we are recording what we have learned since 1996 and
the sysYem plans include the most up-to-date desired connections.
AGENDA ITEM 4
Matters from Staff:
There were none.
Matters from the Board:
Brant Liebmann asked whether or not the city would leave the HOP route as it is
when the Broadway construction is completed. Mike Sweeney said that the city
would be looking at the service very critically for changes.
Jim Rettew suggested having a half-hour brainstorming session regarding goals,
measures and evaluation criteria for the TMP Update at the January meeting.
Krista Holland had some questions about the Goose Creek Underpass at Foothills
information item that was attached to tbe paeket. Tracy Winfree suggested that
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Holland contact Noreen Walsh or the project manager, Debbie Ritter, so that she can
more fully undersCand the scope of the project and potentially go on a site tour.
• Jeriy W~Lss said that he attended a Landmarks Board meeting and it was clear to him,
after watching the staff from the oYher department, that the Transportation
Deparcment staff does a wonderful job with their public outreach efforts.
• John Taver received a memo from a citizen that he asked to have distributed to the
other board members.
• John Taver asked the staff to keep the TAB updated on the decision by RTD to
charge for parking at Park and Ride lots and the impact it could have on Boulder.
AGENDA ITEM 5
Next meeting agenda
The Jan. 13, 2003 meeting will contain a half-hour brainstorming session on evaluation
criteria for the TMP.
AG~NDA ITEM 6
Adjournment
.Terrv Wvss motioned to adjourn the meeting.
.iim Rettew seconded.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:47 p.m.
Next Meeting
Jan. 13, 2002, 6:00 p.m., Transportation Advisory Board regular meeting, at The
Municipal Building Council Chambers.
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