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Minutes Transportation 05/13/2002 TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD i FINAL MINUTES MAY 13, 2002 BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT Jim Rettew, vice-chair, Brant Liebmann, Jerry Wyss, and Krista Holland; John Tayer was absent STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT Tracy Winfree, Marni Ratzel, Noreen Walsh, Rod Rindal, Kate Patterson, Molly Winter, Bill Cowern, Mike Gardner-Sweeney and Robin Madel, secretary PRE-MEETING DINNER WITH REGIONAL PARTNER Larry Matel from the Boulder County Transportation Division attended the dinner. • AGENDA ITEM 1 Call to Order Jim Rettew, vice-chair, called the meeting to order at 6:04 p.m. AGENDA ITEM 2 Approval of Minutes Minutes from the March 11, 2002 meeting were approved with changes made per the last meeting. Minutes from the April 8, 2002 meeting were approved as written. Jerry Wyss motioned to approve the March 11, 2002 minutes as amended. Brant Liebmann seconded. The vote was 3-0, in favor of the motion. Krista Holland abstained because she was not present at that meeting. John Tayer was absent from the meeting. Jerry Wyss motioned to approve the April 8, 2002 minutes as written. Brant Liebmann seconded. • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 1 The vote was 4-0, in favor of the motion. John Tayer was absent from the meeting. AGENDA ITEM 3 General Citizen Participation Premena, P.O. Box 1038, Boulder 80306, spoke about bike signage. He said he noticed that some new signs were installed such that east-west travelling bikers couldn't see them and asked to have them positioned correctly. He also discussed the "Courtesy is Contagious" memo that Marni Ratzel authored. He said the memo references a courtesy campaign in Chicago that was geared toward cyclists and he feels this is too exclusive. The courtesy campaign should be geared toward all modes of transportation. Gail Georgeson, 5101 Ellsworth Pl., Boulder 80303, opposed the city's plan to put a bike path in because she said that the Parent-Teacher Organization and the Boulder Valley School District are not interested in it. She said it doesn't solve the need for an east-west connection, it is costly and it puts children at risk. Cherie McCandless, 5011 Ellsworth Pl., Boulder 80303, said this is her P time attending a meeting about this bike path in 11 years. She is against the path because she said it doesn't solve the problem and it doesn't address the entire picture. McCandless asked the TAB to decide what would make sense. • John Stavely, 5000 Ellsworth Pl., Boulder 80303, said he opposes a bike path on the east side of the elementary school because of safety, need and cost. He said it would be unsafe to funnel more bikes into where children walk especially given the number of close calls on the Boulder Creek Path and the Centennial Creek Path. He said there are no bike path outlets to Rock Park and wasn't clear why the city wanted to direct increased bike traffic to this area. He also asked for a detailed cost estimate for all of the options. Steve Barta, 5001 Ellsworth Pl., Boulder 80303, said that he purchased a home on a cul-de-sac to avoid the type of action the staff is attempting. He said that a significant number of neighbors oppose the bike path on the grounds that it doesn't make sense. He said there was misinformation between the city and the school district about who approached whom with the proposal. Carol Barta, 5001 Ellsworth Pl., Boulder 80303, said she has lived for 25 years with the school in her back yard. She said the morning commute on a north-south bike path wouldn't be a problem because kids aren't playing there then. But the afternoon is a problem because the whole neighborhood is kid- and community-oriented. The street already has a lot of traffic. There are 40 cars, 17 driveways and at least 20 kids in the area. • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 2 Jennifer Hushka, 5041 Ellsworth Pl., Boulder 80303, had her daughter, Ella, who will • be a first grader next year with her. She said there is too much traffic and too much exposure at the back of the school. She said that the real issue is that the east-west path will be extended and she thinks the staff is using the north-south path to get that started. Ed Zolnick, 5076 Forsythe Pl. Boulder 80303, has lived in his neighborhood for 25 years and is opposed to the bike path because he said the neighborhood hasn't needed it for 25 years and they just want the area to be left alone. He said the details show that the path will be wide enough to drive a car on. He recommended pushing the bike path to the south side of Wellman Canal. Scott Light, 5106 Forsythe Pl. Boulder 80303, opposes the path behind the school because he said there is too much traffic behind the school and the playground and he thinks it is a bad idea in general. TAB Comments The TAB stated that it would pursue a meeting with the school district to confirm its change in interest for pursuing improved school connections at Eisenhower. If the school does not want to proceed at this time, the north-south connections issue will be included in the larger east-west connections public process. Jerry Wyss and Krista Holland said that they would go to the school to talk with the administrators about the issue if necessary. Staff added that the neighborhood would be informed of the public process • when it occurs. Tracy Winfree said that the staff would be pursuing improved signage. She said the staff would visit the areas mentioned and evaluate possible changes. General Citizen Participation was closed. THANKS TO TAB Nataly Handlos thanked the TAB for all of their support for the new DASH/STAMPEDE bus service and gave them all sweatshirts with the DASH or STAMPEDE logos on them. AGENDA ITEM 4 Public hearing and consideration of a recommendation to City Council on the Yarmouth Avenue (Broadway to U.S. 36) Community Environmental Assessment Process (CEAP). Walsh discussed the staff recommended improvements to bring Yarmouth Avenue to city standards. She discussed comments received from the Design Review Committee and the • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 3 speeding problem that makes the area eligible to join the Neighborhood Traffic • Mitigation Program. Walsh said that medians could address some of the issues. She said that if medians were installed to address pedestrian crossing issues, there would not be landscaped strips along the side of the road. TAB Questions Brant Liebmann asked what the timeframe is for development along Broadway and Yarmouth. Walsh said the development is anticipated in the next six to nine months and the developers would pay for some of the improvement costs. Krista Holland thanked Walsh for the thorough job she did in her presentation. Jerry Wyss agreed that the staff has done a great job with this project. He asked if the ditch on the north side of Yarmouth would be replaced. Walsh said that it would be covered. Citizen Participation Gary Lynn, 1707 Yarmouth, Boulder, said he is concerned about the speed on Yarmouth because it seems as though there are no restrictions. He mentioned that RTD would be returning service with the 204 route to Yarmouth and he thanked the staff for making that happen. • The TAB also received a letter of support for the project from Micki Kaplan who is a resident of the area. Citizen Participation was closed. TAB Comments Jim Rettew said that although he recognizes that the CEAP is not a final design document, he feels that the tentative location for a mid-block crossing is not logical. He felt it would be more logical to locate it closer to 14th St. or 15th St. Walsh said that there were concerns about locating it at 14th St. because it is an offset street. She said that medians are character builders for neighborhoods because they signal a transition zone. Brant Liebmann recommended the Yarmouth Avenue CEAP for approval as written. Jerry Wvss seconded. The vote was 4-0 in favor of the motion. John Tayer was absent from the meeting. • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 4 AGENDA ITEM 5 • Public hearing and consideration of a recommendation to City Council on the Longwood Neighborhood Permit Parking (NPP) District. Kate Patterson reviewed the background of the NPP program. In 1986, the city council adopted the residential parking permit program to relieve spillover into residential areas. The program was designed to give preference to residences and businesses that existed in the zone. The program was implemented in 1993 in the Mapleton Hill and University Hill areas. The program restricted non-resident parking to two hours on Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Concerns about the impact of the program led the city council to ask for an evaluation of the program and this led to the creation of the Neighborhood Permit Parking Program (NPP). The goal of the NPP is to create a balance between preserving the neighborhood character and providing public access. The program creates a zone, an area of on street parking, that restricts non-resident use. Permits are available to residents, visitors, employees and some commuters. The permit exempts a vehicle from the restrictions. Zones have color codes on signs and permits. The zones are signed because the restrictions vary. A vehicle may park one time only per day in the allotted zone. Enforcement officers go through the zone and enter license plate numbers of vehicles without permits. After the allotted time, they return and re-enter the plates. Any vehicle • in there longer than the allotted time may be subject to a ticket. The Longwood proposal began with a petition from the residents. Citizens complained of a lack of parking for residents on school days as well as a lack of safety and increased trash and noise. The proposal includes the 3600 block to the 3900 block of Longwood Avenue. The restrictions would be in effect on Monday through Friday, from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., for two hours, one time per day on school days only, except by permit. Commuter permits would be available in accordance with the regulations, which include a maximum of four per block face with a 25% white space. The program was citizen initiated and started with petitions from residents of Longwood and Gillaspie. Gillaspie already has restrictions in place on the south side of the street. Residents of Gillaspie are requesting NPP restrictions on the north, non-residential side of the street. Citizen complaints on Gillaspie included no parking for residents during school days, trash, noise and student behavior. The city conducted a parking study, completed by TransPlan, to gather parking information for not only the petition blocks but also for any other impacted areas. During the school day, the study showed an average daily occupancy of 73%. That number drops to 13% on non-school days. Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 5 The staff recommendation originally was to not include areas that are not adjacent to • residential property. This includes the north side of Gillaspie and all of Greenbriar in front of the school. The staff proposal included the west side of the 3900 block and a portion of the 4000 block of Greenbriar Boulevard, which would be included in the zone, but with no change to the current parking restrictions. Based on input from the petitioners and the engineering safety study, the staff recommendation covered Longwood Avenue and the south (residential) side of Gillaspie with the NPP time restrictions and commuter permits available according to the ordinance. The proposal did not address trash, noise or student behavior. The staff opposed including the north side of Gillaspie in the proposal because it is not adjacent to residential property, parking utilization is low on non-schooldays and the property owners (Boulder Valley School District (BVSD) and the city of Boulder (COB)) were opposed to adding parking restrictions on these blocks. The staff felt that resident access to on-street parking could be addressed with changing the current restrictions on Gillaspie. The Longwood residents generally supported the proposal. Some preferred a one-hour time period and parking farther up on Longwood Ave. Gillaspie residents did not support changing the current restrictions and wanted to include the north, non-residential side of Gillaspie. The staff revised the proposal to remove the residential side of Gillaspie and • recommended keeping the restrictions as they are today. The proposal was sent to residents and representatives of the school district. Two public meetings were held on March 20, 2002 and April 2, 2002. The school district has remained neutral. Fairview High school students support restrictions on Longwood only. Residents outside the zone are mixed. Some are opposed because they see what will happen to them. Others are opposed to any restrictions to public access to on-street parking. Longwood residents generally support the proposal. Gillaspie residents generally do not support the proposal because it did not include the north side of the street. Greenbriar residents were opposed to being included in the proposal The parks department has said that they will make an effort to clean up trash left by the students. Trash was a major issue. The school is in the process of joining the adopt-a- street program. The parking services staff evaluated the impacts of the program and determined that there would be 32 displaced vehicles. The students will be encouraged to park on Greenbriar where there will still be 55 available parking spaces. The program is unique because it is outside of the current enforcement district. The NPP is generally implemented in areas with existing parking enforcement and it changes the • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 6 • type of enforcement that is done. This will be a new area three miles away from the closest NPP zone, which is Columbine. Columbine and Longwood would be enforced together and will be performed an average of two days per week which is consistent with all zones. TAB Questions Jerry Wyss asked about commuter permits. He asked, if the south side of Gillaspie is included, is that considered one block or two blocks? Would there be four permits or eight permits in that block. Patterson said that it would be considered one block between Greenbriar and Kittrel. There would be a maximum of four commuter permits. Wyss asked who would be eligible to purchase commuter permits. Patterson said they are sold on a first come, first served basis. If they renew it they can get it for the next quarter. If they let it lapse then it is open to anyone. Jerry Wyss asked why the enforcement changed from the Boulder Police Department to Parking Services. Patterson said that the staff originally talked to the Police Department about enforcement but they don't have the ability to enforce parking in that neighborhood. Krista Holland asked why it was not possible to include the north side of Gillaspie in the zone. Patterson said that is possible but not recommended to include the north side of • Gillaspie in the zone. Holland asked about solutions other that an NPP that would apply to this area. Patterson said that the other enforcement options available do not fit the needs of this neighborhood. Bill Cowern said that other parking restriction options fall outside of the scope of the NPP program and would fall to the transportation division. Brant Liebmann asked if it legal for the city to give parking permits to the school and for the school to give out permits as they please. Patterson said that it is legal and has been done in the past at Boulder Senior High in the Goss-Grove neighborhood. Boulder Sr. High has a transportation coordinator who gives them out. When Patterson last spoke with the coordinator, that person could not give all of the permits away. Jim Rettew asked how many permits were available at Boulder Sr. High. Patterson said she thought there were about 30 but the zone has 61 block faces. Jerry Wyss asked if residents want permits where can they park. Patterson said that parking is zone based and the permit is good throughout the zone. Commuter permits are specific to a block face but the resident permits are good for a whole zone. Jerry Wyss asked about the safety analysis that was performed by the transportation staff (Bill Cowern was there to discuss the analysis) for inclusion of the north and south sides of Gillaspie in the NPP zone. Bill Cowern said that the issue was brought up about whether it would be safe to have vehicles parked on both sides of Gillaspie. With the NPP there would be more parking on the south side of Gillaspie during 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 7 • In the safety analysis, they looked at the width of the street because the width would dictate the possibility of parking on both sides of the street. The street has 40 feet of width with seven to eight feet of area reserved for parking. They determined that there would be ample room for parking with two travel lanes. They studied the speed and volume. The 85th percentile speed was less than 5 mph over the speed limit so the street does not qualify for the NTMP because it doesn't have a speeding problem. There is a volume of 1000 cars per day, which is considered low. There would be no parking restrictions based on volume. There was a concern about the horizontal and vertical curvature of the roadway. Cowern said that they couldn't find anything else in the city to duplicate the horizontal curvature but to evaluate the vertical curvature they looked at Baseline and 9th St. Both streets have parking on both sides of the street. Gillaspie Dr. was compared to 9th St. and Baseline Rd. for parking and accident statistics. They also have higher traffic volumes with a thinner road width. The study evaluated the width of the street and the amount of room for parking on both sides of the street. No hazards were found in having cars parked on both sides of the street. They looked at driveways to preserve site lines for people coming out of their driveways. Parked cars have an impact on being able to see when coming out of the driveways but that was a case-by-case basis. Cowern said he found nothing from an engineering perspective that would prevent traffic on both sides of the street • Jerry Wyss asked if there is a solid row of cars on one side of the street and a few (4-6) cars on the other side, from a safety engineer's perspective, is there a hazard? Cowern said that, based on a roadway this wide, there would not be. Jerry Wyss asked if the fact that the road is shady and gets icy in the winter has any effect on the safety analysis. Cowern said that it does not. Jim Rettew asked if enforcement of other possibilities than the NPP would fall to the Police Department. Patterson said that the BPD is not equipped to deal with time- restricted parking or anything other than blocked fire hydrants. Cowern said that the BPD doesn't have the resources to allow enforcement. Jim Rettew asked why the north side of Gillaspie was not included in the zone. Patterson said it was because there are no houses on the north side and the policy generally does not include removing parking from an area where there is no demonstrated need for that action. She also said that it is utilized heavily by students. Jim Rettew stated that the city's position is to allow parking wherever possible and only curb parking where there is a problem. He said that the other issues are still present on the north side for people who live on the south side. He asked where the city comes down on • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 8 • that. Patterson said that dealing with the other issues is not the focus of the program. She said that in general, those issues are improved when parking is restricted. Rettew asked how many commuter and resident spaces would be available if the NPP is implemented on Longwood. Patterson said that 2 resident permits per adult per household are issued plus 2 visitor permits per household. Commuter permits are issued after the resident permits. The city will go back to the area and study it again to determine the white space. The number of permits issued is based on maintaining 25% white space. There could be as many as 4 per block. Rettew asked how many the high school would get. Patterson said that the school is not in the zone but if Gillaspie were added they would be eligible for 3 permits but could request more based on accomodating full time FTE's, etc. Commuter permits cost $75 per year. Rettew asked how many vehicles would be displaced on Gillaspie. Patterson said that it would be about the same as those displaced on Longwood - 32. Wyss asked what the fee for resident permits would be. Patterson said they are $12 per year. Holland asked if students could purchase commuter permits. Patterson said that they could. Citizen Participation The following residents spoke in favor of including Gillaspie Dr. in the NPP zone. They unanimously preferred to include the north side of Gillaspie in the NPP zone and leave the current parking restrictions along the south side of Gillaspie unchanged. • Dan Nowell, 1190 Hartford Dr., Boulder 80305, is a letter carrier in the area being considered for the NPP and said he is opposed to the plan unless it is made more restrictive because having cars parked along Gillaspie creates a hazard for him in his job and put his life in peril. Also, he said there are typically students walking down the street on Gillaspie and Kittrell. Susie Mottashed,1725 Gillaspie Dr., Boulder 80305, said that because there is currently no parking during the day on the north side of Gillaspie and typically the north side is full of cars from students, there is no place for contractors or visitors to park their cars. She said the neighborhood is inundated with too many cars and there is more than adequate designated parking on Greenbriar Rd. and Chambers Rd. Joe Mottashed, 1725 Gillaspie Dr., Boulder 80305, said that he is in favor of including the north side of Gillaspie in the NPP. He said that the 2 options presented by staff, either no NPP or inclusion of the south side of Gillaspie in the NPP, would jeopardize safety. Allowing parking on both sides would impair vision. He said that Gillaspie differs from 9th St. and Baseline Rd. because of the high school and number of students. Linda Nga,1715 Gillaspie, Boulder 80305, lives at the top of a steep driveway that has 3 houses. She said it is difficult to see with cars parked on both sides of Gillaspie Dr. and deliveries will be even more difficult, especially in the winter. She advocated having no • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 9 • parking on the south side of Gillaspie and adding the north side of Gillaspie in the NPP zone. John Marshall, 1707 Gillaspie Dr., Boulder 80305, said that congestion and safety are the 2 biggest issues. He said he thinks the safety study was flawed because there is nothing similar in Boulder to compare it to. He said that when cars travel in opposite directions travelling up or down the hill they swing out into the middle of the street. He asked that. the parking be pushed to Greenbriar Blvd. and not to Gillaspie Dr.. James Bush, 1785 Gillaspie Dr., Boulder 80305, lives across from the west entrance to the student parking lot. He advocated leaving the current parking restrictions in place for the south side of Gillaspie and said he would like to see the north side of Gillaspie Dr. included in the NPP zone. Bush stressed the safety issue on the south side of Gillaspie Dr. Louise Silverr,1795 Gillaspie Dr., Boulder 80305, lives at the corner of Greenbriar Blvd. and Gillaspie Dr. and said she is interested in getting into the NPP program because of the lack of parking. She said she thought that a lack of parking was a necessary evil. She is homebound on medical leave and found that her home care professionals were missing their appointments with her because they could find nowhere to park. She said that if Longwood Ave. is added into the program and Gillaspie Dr. is not, it would make the problem worse. Also, because there is no sidewalk on the north side of Gillaspie the students walk down the middle of the road to get to the school building. • Terry Snyder, 1705 Gillaspie Dr., Boulder 80305, said he is representing himself and David Miller as well. He lives at the top of the steep driveway on Gillaspie Dr. and said that when service people drive down the driveway it is difficult with parking on the south side of Gillaspie Dr. He said he is not sure that designated "No Parking" spaces would be honored. He is afraid of the repercussions of having a car towed. He said Gillaspie Dr. is not like 9`h St. or Baseline. Susan Knight, 1735 Gillaspie Dr., Boulder 80305, iterated the concerns for inclusion of Longwood Ave. and Gillaspie Dr. into the NPP. She said that the city should leave the "No Parking" restrictions on the south side of Gillaspie Dr. She said it is dangerous for kids opening their car doors when parked on the north side of Gillaspie Dr. and the lack o a sidewalk is also a risk. Rafael Castillo, 1735 Gillaspie Dr., Boulder 80305, said he agrees with what the neighbors have said and commended the Fairview students that did resident studies. He reminded the students of the open spaces on Greenbriar Blvd. Steve La Tarrette, 3950 Greenbriar Blvd., Boulder 80305, spoke in favor of excluding Greenbriar Dr. from the NPP zone. He said that 6 out of 9 residents on the east side of Greenbriar and the only resident on the west side of Greenbriar are opposed to inclusion in the NPP zone. • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 10 The following residents live near the proposed NPP zone. Karla Bielanski, 4310 Ludlow St., Boulder 80305, said she is concerned that the NPP proposal will displace cars into her neighborhood which is already congested. She said some of the neighbors would like to be included in the NPP process. David Shomuer, 3170 Kittrell, Boulder, 80305, is on the outside edge of the proposed NPP zone and said he can see problems coming to his street. He said Kittrell is a steep and hazardous street and asked the TAB to consider adding Kittrell into the NPP (Kate Patterson said that the street currently does not meet the qualifications for inclusion in the NPP). The following residents are students at FHS or are employees of the school district. Brittany Smith, 4565 Darley Ave., Boulder 80305, is a sophomore at Fairview High School and said the NPP will impact her as a student. She is a senator for the student council and has met with the city and attended the public forums. She said the student body doesn't support including Gillaspie Dr. in the NPP but that the students want to work with the neighbors and are supportive of the program. Trent Smith, 3920 Caddo Pkwy., Boulder, is a student at Fairview High School and surveyed the residents of Knox Ave., Ludlow Ave. and Greenbriar Blvd. about the parking situation. He said he supports the NPP zone for Longwood Ave. but not for Gillaspie Dr. because it will displace cars to Knox Ave. and Ludlow Ave. Scott Ladner, 5436 Illini Way, Boulder, is a student at Fairview High School and is a driver. Ladner says that he doesn't think that there is enough parking at FHS to accommodate all of the drivers and feels he could do more to support and encourage bus ridership. He said he opposes inclusion of Gillaspie Dr. in the NPP zone because it will force drivers to park on streets that are closer to the school than Greenbriar is. He said that he would probably buy a commuter pass to park in the NPP zone. Jim Rettew asked what the student government is doing to encourage bus ridership and carpooling. Ladner mentioned the $9 bus pass made available to the students. The administration is just starting to evaluate promoting carpooling. Landon Hilvard, student transportation coordinator for the Boulder Valley School District, said that the students at Fairview represent a microcosm of the Boulder population and the issues of parking and modes of transportation are bigger than the Fairview High School population. He said that the school is evaluating carpooling programs and offers low cost bus passes for local service only. He mentioned that the students have been willing and positive to work with the neighbors and asked the Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 11 neighbors to be more tolerant of the students. He said that 13% of students take the bus to • school whereas 6% of the adult population in Boulder takes the bus to work. Citizen Participation was closed. TAB Comments Brant Liebmann asked if it is possible to reconcile the city's opinion about safety versus the observation of the neighbors and the postal carrier's and his own observations that there are lots of cars parked illegally. Patterson said that it is not illegal to park in front of a mailbox. She also said that the study didn't observe illegally parked cars. She said there may be some perceptions of illegally parked vehicles and some may not have been there on the day the study was done. Cowern added that it is his opinion, based on engineering principles, and there are differing opinions, that parking on both sides is safe. He said they are opinions. Citizen opinions are based on experiences. The TAB must decide whether they agree with the safety study. The postal carrier said that it is against postal policy to drive around cars parked in front of mailboxes. Krista Holland asked if the NPP were used how many commuter permits would be available. Patterson said there would be four per block faces and since there are eight block faces there would be 32 permits available. Jim Rettew asked why there was installation of the parking restriction signs on the south • side of Gillaspie Dr. in 1982. Cowern said that it is a matter of opinion at this point because there is no documentation available to support installation of the signs. He heard that it was for reasons ranging from safety to parking issues. Rettew asked if the area is taken away on the south side of Gillaspie for driveways, how much space would be left if parking were allowed (if parking were not allowed after the curved area)? Cowern said there would be a lot of curb area left but they would want to restrict more than five feet from the driveways. He said that if the parking were only restricted by five feet, some of the sight-distance issues would be true. He said he would have to think carefully about how much to include on the curve and that there would be a lot of potential parking lost around driveways if they restricted it too much. Jerry Wyss asked about the property line along the north side of Gillaspie on the map. He asked if the whole section is school property or if part of it is city property. Patterson said that the property line has been debated so Land Info Systems produced the map. Jerry Wyss said that the school is relatively neutral and the city is against including the north side of Gillaspie but the city's opinion is irrelevant along that section because it is school property based on the line on the map. Jim Rettew asked the TAB members to confirm that they wanted to pursue an NPP. Brant Liebmann said yes. Krista Holland said she was not totally satisfied with the NPP as a solution but said yes for the time being. Rettew said that it was safe to assume that there • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 12 • would be some type of NPP from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Monday through Friday and on regular school days only with an allowance of parking one time per day for a two-hour period. They discussed having an implementation date of September 2002 but agreed that it would need to be in place by August 2002 in order to be in effect before the new school year. Brant Liebmann asked if the school days included summer school. Patterson said that parking in the area is not an issue for summer school. Jerry Wyss suggested breaking up the discussion into the staff proposal for Longwood and Greenbriar and breaking up Gillaspie into two separate discussions about the north side and the south side. He also said that other streets should not be considered because there are no petitions before the board from the other streets. All members agreed with the staff proposal for Longwood Ave., Greenbriar Blvd. and the south side of Gillaspie Dr. Jim Rettew discussed other options for Gillaspie Dr. including possibly making the south side of the street an NPP and moving the no parking restrictions to the north side of the street. Rettew said that he didn't see 9`" St. or Baseline Rd. as exactly modeling Gillaspie Dr. He said that, although the other streets are not part of this petition process, he wondered if inclusion of the north side of Gillaspie was creating more problems for the future. Kate Patterson said that according to the ordinance, blocks in a zone must be adjacent or contiguous. She said that the zone proposed by TAB (Longwood and the north side of • Gillaspie Dr.) was not. Patterson said that the school's neutral position was based on not including the north side of Gillaspie Dr. in the zone and that may change based on the TAB proposed zone. Jim Rettew said that the staff recommendation was to include Greenbriar Blvd. but make no changes and that should be enough to make Gillaspie Dr. contiguous. Jerry Wyss asked if the residents of Longwood Ave. submitted their petitions at the same time that the residents of Gillaspie Dr. did. Patterson said that they submitted their petitions together. Wyss suggested that, if safety is really an issue on Gillaspie, then the south side should have no parking all the time. He said that according to the staff parking on the north side is not a safety issue. For Wyss, it came down to an issue of convenience and who should be inconvenienced. Jim Rettew said that including the north side of Gillaspie in the zone would address the secondary issues of trash noise and student behavior and what it comes down to is a quality of neighborhood issue. Wyss suggested that including the north side of Gillaspie Dr. out of convenience would violate the city's policy and he recommended leaving the whole street the way it is. Krista Holland said that the NPP is focused on the idea that residents have a right to park in front of their homes as a matter of convenience and she doesn't necessarily agree with that. This is part of why she is not sure if this is the right solution. But, she said that is • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 13 what the city believes in so if it is not safe to park on the south side of the street, then the • residents should be able to park on the north side of the street. Jerry Wyss said that if safety is really an issue then the no parking should be extended beyond 8-4 to be consistent. Liebmann pointed out that from 8-4 is when there is a safety issue. There was also discussion about inclusion of other streets in the zone. Patterson made it clear that if other neighborhoods want to become a NPP zone, they would have to complete the petition process. The next step for the Longwood NPP zone is for the staff to present the recommendation to the city council as a call up item. The council has the ability to approve the recommendation or hold a public hearing. After the discussion, the board came to the following motion. Jim Rettew motioned to recommend to the city manager to take the staff recommendation on timing, implementation date, on including Longwood, including the west side of Greenbriar, all staff recommendations, and include the north side of Gillaspie as an NPP but keep the south side the same, including no other streets. Brant Liebmann seconded. • Brant Liebmann said he supported the motion but apologized to the students for the inconvenience the decision will cause them. The vote was 4-0 in favor of the motion. John Tayer was absent from the meeting. Jim Rettew said that the students will find other places to park. He said that commuter permits are expensive and eventually residents of Ludlow and Knox will be coming back to TAB for their own zones. AGENDA ITEM 6 Matters From Staff: • Bob Whitson spoke about the Boulder Valley Regional Transportation Center Network Plan. Whitson said it is the recommendation of the Planning Department and City Attorney's Office staff to carry the plan forward for adoption by the Boulder Urban Renewal Authority and the City Council. The map for the plan is completed but in draft form and the policy statement is being written. The plan presents options for possible transportation connections in and around Crossroads Mall as future development occurs. The plan is similar to the 28`" St. North Transportation Network • Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 14 Plan. The plan was completed in coordination with the University of Colorado with • regards to the East Campus area. Whitson said that this is a long-range plan and is not set in stone but is available as a guideline for future development activity. Whitson also said that the plan in no way circumvents the CEAP process. Jim Rettew motioned to suspend the rules and continue the meeting beyond 10:00 P.M. Brant Liebmann seconded the motion. The vote was 3-0 in favor of the motion. Jerry Wyss was out of the room during the vote. John Tayer was absent from the meeting. ■ Tracy Winfree pointed out the memo from Marni Ratzel regarding the "Courtesy is Contagious" campaign. No presentation was made. ■ Tracy Winfree asked the TAB to discuss the Bear Canyon Creek Flood Levee Community Environmental Assessment Process and provide comments to the new GAC representative, Krista Holland. Krista Holland mentioned that the Arapahoe Network Plan calls for a bike path from Foothills Parkway to Harrison Avenue. Jim Rettew asked about the impact of paving along streams in the city. Krista Holland said that, because this is a city, we are going to impact the natural environment. Other than this, the TAB had no comments on the CEAP. ■ Tracy Winfree asked the TAB to discuss the Greenways Capital Improvement Program budget and project descriptions and provide comments to Krista Holland. Jim Rettew requested that the transportation staff review the Greenways budget with • the same set of priorities as the rest of the transportation budget. They discussed how the projects are funded and how the money from the transportation department is leveraged against money from the utilities department and the lottery fund. ■ Mike Sweeney discussed the Transportation Capital Improvement Program budget in light of the budget cuts. Tracy Winfree discussed the budget shortfall over the next seven years and provided the staff's approach to balancing the budget. The focus will be on maintaining the integrity of the Transportation Prioritization while reducing enhancements to create a sustainable budget. There will be reductions across all modes and all programs including chip and seal, overlay and other ongoing programs. Winfree said that a significant amount of recent budget shortfalls is due to the national, state and regional recession. Matters From the Board: • Jerry Wyss mentioned the City Council/Planning Board study session about the Jobs- to-Population project on May 14. • Brant Liebmann asked Tracy Winfree about his requested discussion about RTD. Winfree said that Micki Kaplan is working on the item and would call Liebmann to discuss it. • Krista Holland asked if the re-paving project at the airport would include striping for bike lanes. Winfree said she would check into that. • Jerry Wyss mentioned a bus stop at Lehigh and Darley where the adjacent property Transportation Advisory Board Final Minutes May 13, 2002 Page 15 owner had created a right-of-way violation with their landscaping. Winfree said that i she would speak to the right-of-way manager about the issue. • Krista Holland asked about the off-street bike trail along 63rd St. that Larry Matel discussed during dinner. Holland wanted to know if the TAB could provide any help to the project. Winfree said she would have a planning staff member brief the TAB on the issue. Krista Holland asked what the policy is on right-of-way management during construction. Winfree said that she would ask Michael Penny who manages the program to brief the TAB on the policy. AGENDA ITEM 7 Discussion of Future Meeting Agenda The next meeting agenda was not discussed. AGENDA ITEM 8 Adjournment Brant Liebmann motioned to adjourn the meeting. Jerry Wyss seconded. The vote was 3-0 in favor of the motion. Jerry Wyss was out of the room during the vote. The meeting was adjourned at 10:44 p.m. Next Meeting June 3, 2002, 6 p.m., Transportation Advisory Board Retreat, at the Cork Restaurant. June 10, 2002, 6:00 p.m., Transportation Advisory Board regular meeting, at the City Council Chambers. Minutes approved on JZ By TransportFAv Board Final Min May 13, 2 Page 16