Action Minutes Transportation 04/08/2002
CITY OF BOULDER, COLORADO
BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEETING SUMMARY FORM
NAME OF BOARD/COMMISSION: Transportation Advisory Board
• DATE OF MEETING: April 8, 2002
NAME/TELEPHONE OF PERSON PREPARING SUMMARY: Robin Madel, 303-441-4073
NAMES OF MEMBERS, COUNCIL, STAFF AND INVITED GUESTS PRESENT:
BOARD MEMBERS -TAB: John Tayer, chair, Brant Liebmann, Jerry Wyss, Krista Holland and Jim Rettew
STAFF - Tracy Winfree, Mike Gardner-Sweeney, Molly Winter, Dave Bradford, Andrea Robbins, David
Ungemah (Urban Trans Consultants), Bill Cowern, Marni Ratzel, Noreen Walsh and Robin Madel, secretary
WHAT TYPE OF MEETING [REGULAR]
Regional partner outreach dinner with Boulder County.
The dinner meeting did not happen because the dinner guests could not attend.
Agenda Item 1- Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 p.m.
Agenda Item 2 - Election of Officers
Jerry Wyss nominated John Tayer as the TAB chair.
Brant Liebmann seconded the nomination.
Jim Rettew motioned to close the nominations.
Krista Holland seconded the motion.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the nomination.
Brant Liebmann nominated Jim Rettew as the TAB vice-chair.
Jerry Wyss seconded the nomination.
Jerry Wyss motioned to close the nominations.
Krista Holland seconded the motion.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the nomination.
Agenda Item 3 - Approval of Minutes
• Minutes from the March 11, 2002 meeting were approved as amended. Brant Liebmann asked to have the
minutes regarding the North 28`h ST. CEAP reflect that the designs presented in the CEAP are conceptual and not
final.
Jim Rettew motioned to approve the minutes as amended.
Jerry Wvss seconded.
The vote was 4-0, in favor of the motion. Krista Holland abstained because she was not present at
that meeting.
Agenda Item 4 - General Citizen Participation
Premena, P.O. Box 1038, Boulder, 80306, asked to have approval of the minutes retracted so that the
outstanding projects that Alison Richards discussed at the last meeting could be detailed in the notes. He thanked
the staff for installing a sign at a specific location. Finally he asked the staff to identify hazards on bike paths,
such as oncoming construction areas.
Ken Wilson, 970 11th St., Boulder, 80302, spoke about crosswalks in areas where the neighborhoods want
increased safety. He said he has had some productive meetings with the staff and has realized that the pedestrian
crossing treatment warrants don't take all situations into account. He suggested that the warrant chart include a
process for a neighborhood association to vote to have a crosswalk installed.
Jan Clason, 3305 Eastman Ave., Boulder, is a member of the Martin Acres steering committee and asked to
have signs and mirrors installed along Bear Creek near the school and at Moorhead Ave. She said there is heavy
use and she has seen and has almost been involved in collisions between bikes and pedestrians.
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TAB Comments
Jim Rettew motioned to amend the minutes to include the projects that Alison Richards described
in the minutes.
Brant Liebmann seconded the motion.
• The vote was 4-0 in favor of the motion.
General Citizen Participation was closed.
Agenda Item 5 - Public hearing and consideration of a recommendation to City Council regarding options
for the 72-Hour Parking Prohibition, BRC 7-6-20 (Molly Winter and Dave Bradford).
Molly Winter and Dave Bradford discussed the 72-hour parking restriction ordinance and how it impacts the
ability of people that use alternative transportation methods. Staff's concern is that the ordinance will discourage
people from leaving their cars in place and will encourage people to drive. They discussed the process for
enforcement of the ordinance. The City Council wants to evaluate the ordinance to allow people.to leave their
cars parked in front of their houses, but the parking officer does not have immediate access to owner information
about vehicles.
Citizen Participation
Premena, P.O. Box 1038, Boulder, 80306, said he knows people that received parking tickets for unmoved
vehicles when they chose to use alternative transportation. He said he thinks the requirement to use a car
regularly is not okay and people don't need to be harassed for not driving.
Steven Walsh, 915 15th St. Boulder, 80302, encouraged maintenance of the 72 hour limit and said that a big
problem for people that live on the hill is student vehicle storage at off-campus sites. He said that his
neighborhood is under the Neighborhood Parking Permit (NPP) program. He also said that he commutes by bus
to work and he has never received a ticket for leaving his car. He said that if the city does change the ordinance,
he recommended making the ordinance proactive instead of complaint based, which it is now.
Terry Rogers, 1060 Lincoln, Boulder, 80302, said he thinks that storage of vehicles is a real problem on the
hill. He said that the NPP program covers less than half of The Hill area. He said that the 72-hour program helps
keep the streets clean and safe.
Ken Wilson, 970 11`h St., Boulder, 80302, echoed the comments of Steven Walsh and Terry Rogers. He said he
is concerned that the neighborhoods will become parking lots. He said that since the parking officers cannot
receive immediate information about car owners, the issue will become an investigative one. He also said that the
proposed changes to the ordinance do not address higher density housing.
• TAB Comments
The TAB members generally found both sides of the argument valid but questioned whether there was a need to
change the ordinance because the parking office has received few complaints about the parking ordinance as it
pertains to the use of alternative transportation.
Jerry Wyss motioned to recommend to City Council Option 6 ("Leave the ordinance and its
enforcement the way it is.") due to a lack of evidence that there is a problem with alternative mode
use.
Brant Liebmann seconded the motion.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
Agenda Item 6 - Public hearing and consideration of a recommendation on the Transportation Demand
Management (TDM) Public Process and Implementation Plan (Andrea Robbins).
Andrea Robbins gave a brief presentation about the public process that the city would follow to educate the
public about TDM.
Citizen Participation and TAB Comment
Premena, P.O. Box 1038, Boulder, 80306, said that he would like to see the city do more I the way of incentives
which are less controversial than disincentives. He suggested getting businessmen involved.
Citizen Participation was closed
TAB Discussion
The discussion focussed on the nature and purpose of the public process and who the intended audience is. They
also discussed sending information about the program out through the media and making extra attempts to
address the issues of those opposed to TDM measures.
Jerry Wyss motioned to approve the staff recommendation for a specific timeline and public
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process.
Krista Holland seconded the motion.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
Agenda Item 7 -
• Matters From Staff-
• Marni Ratzel and Bill Cowern gave a status on the bikeways signage program. They discussed the existing
and new systems and presented suggested designs for the signs that will go on primary and secondary
corridors. They also discussed off-system bike routes, trail-blazing signs and "You Are Here" maps. They
also discussed the conventions they used to name the bikeways.
• Noreen Walsh discussed the upcoming Yarmouth Ave Community Environmental Assessment Process to
upgrade Yarmouth Avenue from Broadway to U.S. 36. She discussed the North Boulder Sub-community
Plan as the basis for the CEAP. The plan will be presented to the TAB in a public hearing in May 2002.
• Bill Cowern discussed the data gathered so far regarding the pedestrian crossing demonstration devices. He
discussed the specific devices, the criteria for their installation, the compliance rates since the devices were
installed, delays to vehicles at specific devices and the accident rates associated with the devices. They also
discussed standardization of treatments.
• Mike Gardner-Sweeney discussed the Year 2003-2008 Transportation Capital Improvement Program budget.
He intended for the discussion to be preliminary and said he would be back in May 2002 with a more
detailed discussion and again in June 2002 for a TAB recommendation to the City Council. He briefly
discussed the impact of the proposed budget shortfall on transportation programs. He also offered to discuss
the budget in a one-on-one meeting with the TAB members.
• Robin Madel discussed the TAB Rules of Procedure and the rules associated with board member
correspondence.
Matters From the Board:
■ The board discussed the agenda for the retreat, which is scheduled for April 22, 2002. They decided to use
the agenda from last years' retreat and add sections covering the TAB relationship with the City Council and
other boards and a discussion of last years' goals.
■ The board discussed TAB member appointments to committees and task forces. The appointments will stay
the same except that Krista Holland will take Alison Richards' place on the Greenways Advisory
Committee. They also decided that they do not want official TAB representation in the Neighborhood Traffic
• Mitigation Program.
Jim Rettew motioned to approve the new committee appointments.
Jerry Wyss seconded the motion.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
• Jerry Wyss asked to have two items added to the future agenda: bikes on sidewalks and evaluating holding a
joint meeting with the other boards that have representation on the Greenways Advisory Committee. Tracy
Winfree said that Annie Noble and Marni Ratzel are assembling a Greenways staff work group to work on
controversial issues, such as electric-assist bikes on bike paths. Winfree recommended that the staff work
group have a chance to develop a list of mutual areas of work before TAB considers meeting with other
boards. The Board concurred.
• Jerry Wyss asked to have an update on the maintenance of Greenways trails, which is a budget issue.
• Jerry Wyss asked the staff to evaluate whether the sidewalks and pedestrian crossing treatments are
compliant with the Americans With Disabilities Act. This will be added to the TAB To Do list.
• Brant Liebmann requested adding a discussion on the pros and cons of funding RTD bus systems to the TAB
schedule.
• Brant Liebmann requested a discussion on providing subsidies for bus passes to lower income passengers.
Brant Liebmann motioned to suspend the rules and allow the meeting to continue beyond 10 p.m.
Jerry Wyss seconded the motion.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
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Agenda Item 8 - Discussion of Future Meeting Agenda
• The Yarmouth Avenue CEAP
• The Neighborhood Parking Permit program on Longwood Avenue
• The transportation CIP
• An update about the Transportation Master Plan
Agenda Item 10 - Adjournment
Brant Liebmann motioned to adjourn the meeting.
Jim Rettew seconded.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:09 p.m.
Date, Time, and Location of Next Meeting:
■ June 3, 2002, 6:00 p.m., Transportation Advisory Board retreat, The Cork Restaurant.
May 13, 2002, 6:00 p.m., Transportation Advisory Board regular meeting, at the City Council Chambers.
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