3 - Transportation - Draft Minutes - 3/11/2002
TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD
FINAL MINUTES
MARCH 11, 2002
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
John Tayer, chair, Brant Liebmann, Jerry Wyss, Alison Richards and Jim Rettew
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT
Tracy Winfree, Chris Andersen, Mike Gardner-Sweeney, Randall Rutsch, Bob Whitson,
Stephany Westhusin, Noreen Walsh, and Robin Madel, secretary
Pre-meeting dinner with Christine Andersen about the role of the transportation
director.
The discussion focused on the role of the transportation director and a brief description of
the position. Tracy Winfree discussed the perception of the position as well as the reality
of what she does in that capacity.
AGENDA ITEM 1
Formal thanks to Alison Richards
Richards' term with the TAB is ending and the TAB and staff presented her with a picture
collage, a Buffalo Boogie plaque and a cake. Mayor Will Toor read a resolution formally
thanking her for her service.
AGENDA ITEM 2
Call to Order
John Taver, chair, called the meeting to order at 6:10 p.m.
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AGENDA ITEM 3
Approval of Minutes
Minutes from February 11, 2002 were approved as amended. Alison Richards noted that
in the Final Minutes on page 5, the next meeting of the NTMP public process should be
listed at the end of February not the end of 2002.
Alison Richards motioned to approve the minutes as amended.
Jerry Wyss seconded.
The vote was 5-0, in favor of the motion.
AGENDA ITEM 4
General Citizen Participation
Elizabeth Black, 4340 N. 13`h St., Boulder, spoke about electric-assisted bikes and
allowing them on bike paths. She brought her e-bike into the meeting and gave a
demonstration of how quiet the motor is (her bike bell was louder). She asked the TAB to
vote to allow e-bikes on the bike paths.
Premena, P.O. Box 1038, Boulder, 80306, thanked Alison Richards for her years of
service and spoke again about signage on bike paths. He said that he thought that there
was a resolution to put signs on certain paths outside of a new policy that the staff is
establishing. He said that some small signs in key locations would solve the problems. He
feels that if we don't do this to cars we shouldn't do it to bikers.
Scott Allman, 1720 Bluff, Boulder, said he attended a Parks and Recreation Advisory
Board meeting where they voted on whether or not to allow e-bikes on all bike paths. The
recommendation was denied unanimously and he discussed the four relevant arguments
that were given to deny it. He said that the one-year review period was never addressed
and that there was a strong anti-bike sentiment at the meeting. He asked how the TAB
could work to counter the misinformation about biking and the anti-biker sentiment in
Boulder.
Dick Brasher, said congratulations and goodbye to Alison Richards. He spoke about her
advocacy for bikers and pedestrians in Boulder and said that her work will be missed.
TAB Comments
John Taver and Tracy Winfree briefly explained the history of the TAB vote on a-bikes
and suggested that Black make her appeal to the City Council since the TAB supports
changing the ordinance to allow e-bikes where traditional bikes are allowed.
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Brant Liebmann asked Premena if he made a list of locations that need signs and
Premena said that he e-mailed a partial list to the staff and TAB. Premena said he doesn't
think it is the responsibility of citizens to have to compile such a list.
Alison Richards said that in her board member exit interview she listed completing the
signing of the bike system as an unfinished project that she would like to see completed.
She advocated for smaller signs and sign posts and agreed with Premena that the signs
could be installed even without an approved plan for signage. She thanked Premena for
his persistence on the issue.
Tracy Winfree said that the issue would be brought back to the TAB for discussion at the
next meeting.
General Citizen Participation was closed.
AGENDA ITEM 5
Staff presentation and TAB recommendation on the Transportation Master Plan -
Phase 1; Plan Assessment and Policy Focus Direction.
Randall Rutsch and Tracy Winfree gave a brief presentation on the TMP. Winfree
reminded the TAB of the issues that were covered in the last meeting, which included:
the work done by the study committee, extensive overview of the current plan
assessment, the outreach activities, and the policy focus areas (exploration of funding,
multi-modal corridors, regional travel, travel demand management), and linkage with the
jobs-to-population project.
TAB Questions
John Tayer asked about how changes in demographic data will be integrated. Randall
Rutsch said that the data is obtained from the census and the Denver Regional Council of
Governments (DRCOG) and as data changes the new information will be integrated into
the model, ensuring that future changes are accounted for.
Citizen Participation and TAB Comment
There was none.
Citizen Participation was closed
TAB Discussion
Jerry Wyss said that he thinks the process has been going well and has been moving
along quickly. Wyss recommended, when presenting the issue to the city council, that the
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whole issue be summarized in two sentences as a start to the presentation and
recommended against jumping into the details right away.
John Tayer suggested calling out the demographics from the start so people understand
the basis for the calculations in the model.
Tayer also recommended outlining how the aesthetics will be integrated into the whole of
the plan.
Finally, Tayer recommended reminding the public that the city has worked hard to keep
the traffic counts down especially through the use of the Eco-pass program.
They also discussed being clear in discussions about multi-mode versus alternative-mode
because the public needs to understand that those items are not the same thing.
The staff recommendation is to stay the course with the current policy direction plus
focus on the following four areas for policy refinement: regional travel, funding, multi-
modal corridors and travel demand management. Also, it is important to coordinate with
the Jobs-to-Population Balance study.
Jerry Wyss motioned to recommend to City Council the staff
recommendation regarding the TMP Phase I Policy Focus.
Jim Rettew seconded.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
AGENDA ITEM 6
Staff presentation and TAB recommendation on the North 2801 Street Community
Environmental Assessment Process (CEAP).
Bob Whitson gave a brief presentation about the project and reminded the TAB that the
28`h St. North Transportation Network Plan accompanies the CEAP and has already been
approved and adopted by the City Council.
Whitson discussed the project cost and reminded the TAB that the staff put the project
cost estimate through a value engineering process. He compared the cost to the South 28th
St. CEAP, which is comparable in length, to provide a reference for the $12M associated
with this project. He said the cost is considerably higher than that associated with the
southern section because there is considerably more budget dedicated to the purchase of
easements and right-of-ways. Also, there is a multi-use path on both sides of the northern
section that drives the cost up over that of the southern section.
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Whitson reminded the TAB that the CEAP is not a final design document. The detailed
designs for such items as locations of pedestrian crossings and treatments are still
pending.
TAB Questions
Jim Rettew asked about locations of and treatments for pedestrian crossings and how far
along design of these items are. Whitson said that the staff intends to incorporate
elements of a super stop into the final designs at 28 h and Pearl and 28s' and Valmont.
Jim Rettew asked about the outreach that has been done with the businesses along the
route. Whitson discussed the results of the public process that was held to bring the
business owners on board to support the project. He said that those businesses that
participated in the public process were pleased with the outcome.
Alison Richards asked about the level of design in the CEAP process. She said that it
seemed that there was some fairly detailed design already present in the CEAP. Whitson
explained the levels of design associated with the CEAP process.
Jerry Wyss asked about the budget associated with the CEAP and asked Whitson to
compare it to a comparable project. Whitson iterated the comparison to the South 28t` St.
CEAP. He said that if the costs associated with the ROW/easement purchases are
removed, cost-wise the projects are very comparable. Whitson said the staff will be
looking for federal and state funding to help pay for the project.
Jerry Wyss asked if adding partial medians would increase the level of service in the
corridor. Whitson said that it should help. Wyss asked if adding another proposed lane
would increase capacity. Whitson said he didn't think so because the additional lane that
is proposed in each direction will accommodate buses, turning vehicles and bikers.
Brant Liebmann asked what the city will do if federal and state funds aren't received.
Whitson said that no matter what the funding situation is, the project would be completed
in a piecemeal manner because of the nature of available funding.
Citizen Participation and TAB Comment
Premena P.O. Box 1038, Boulder, 80306, said he is uneasy about the design of the extra
lane, which is supposed to allow bikes, buses and right-turning vehicles only. He said he
wasn't clear about how the on-street bike facility would benefit bikers. Otherwise he said
that he thought the plan had a lot of good features.
Citizen Participation was closed
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TAB Discussion
John Tayer recommended emphasizing to the city council the value engineering that was
done on the project. He recommended reminding the council that this is a process that is
being worked through.
Jerry Wyss commended the staff on the excellent outcome of the project and for bringing
the businesses into the process at the beginning. Wyss said he thinks that this is a good
model for a public process whenever businesses are involved in a project. Wyss also said
that he thought the finances were well within the scope of the project.
Jerry Wyss motioned to approve the staff recommendation which includes
the TAB recommendation that prior to final design, staff conduct a study
and develop recommendations related to design of bike safety and bike
facilities in the North 28th St. area.
Alison Richards seconded the motion.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
AGENDA ITEM 7
Staff presentation and TAB recommendation on the Goose Creek/Foothills Parkway
Underpass Community Environmental Assessment Process (LEAP).
Noreen Walsh provided the background for the LEAP. She gave details as they are
presented in the CEAP. This underpass will have a significant impact on the connectivity
of the Goose Creek Trail.
Several locations were evaluated, including using existing box culverts that allow Goose
Creek to flow under Foothills Parkway. The existing box culverts will not structurally
support construction of a tunnel. The chosen location will have minimal impact to
wetlands. Construction will begin in the fall and should have a minimal impact to traffic
because there will be lane diversions but no lane closures. The construction will be
completed between Phases I and II of the South 28th St. CEAP work and concurrent with
the Broadway Reconstruction CEAP work.
TAB Questions
John Tayer asked about the existing informal parking lot that exists where the eastern
entrance to the underpass will be located. Walsh said that the city has not made any
provisions for relocating the parking lot. Walsh said that the businesses there are
supposed to provide their own parking and the lot is mainly used as an overflow lot.
John Tayer asked about the design of the tunnel He was curious about options for
skylights or leaving the area under the median open. Tayer's concern is that snowplows
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will throw snow into an open area and onto bikers and pedestrians. The tunnel is long and
installing a skylight or leaving an open area will provide some natural lighting and help
with the claustrophobic feeling throughout the tunnel. Walsh said the staff is
investigating the options for not only lighting and/or leaving an open space but also for
including some public art in the tunnel.
This tunnel is more than twice as long as the typical underpass in Boulder. Alison
Richards asked about the provisions for safety and security of people using the tunnel.
They discussed options for lighting.
Jim Rettew asked about the schedule and the impression that having so much of the city
under construction gives to the public. Stephany Westhusin spoke about how the contract
could be managed to accommodate as little traffic disruption as possible.
Jim Rettew asked for cost estimates for all options presented in the memo to give the
TAB a fair evaluation of the options that were evaluated.
Citizen Participation and TAB Comment
Kurt Johnson, 777 Dellwood Ave., Boulder, said he thinks it is important to have
continuation of the path under the frontage road because it will be a key corridor and it
would be safer and more efficient to continue it.
Premena, P.O. Box 1038, Boulder, 80306, said that the Goose Creek path feels like a
canyon and he's never felt comfortable using it at night. He said that safety and the
perception of safety are important and should have a fair amount of consideration.
Brant Liebmann asked about Kurt Johnson's comment. Walsh said that extending the
tunnel under the frontage road has been evaluated as a long-term option. She said there
are a lot of underground obstacles that would preclude that as an option for this stage of
the project.
Alison Richards mentioned that in her discussions with Debbie Ritter about construction,
Ritter indicated that the walls would be benched back to minimize the canyon effect.
John Tayer asked about installing an emergency call box to increase security. Walsh said
she would look into that option.
Citizen Participation was closed
TAB Comments
Jerry Wyss asked about the interaction staff has had with businesses in the area. Wyss
recommended that the staff consider the local businesses as a destination.
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John Tayer asked if the final design would come back to the TAB for review. Walsh said
that the final design would be sent to the TAB as a Weekly Information Packet (WIP)
item.
Jim Rettew asked again about the timing of the project with respect to other projects in
north-south corridors. He is concerned that having three major north-south corridors
under construction at the same time would give the impression that Boulder is closed for
business. This was discussed for quite a while. Stephany Westhusin talked extensively
about how to control the scheduling to minimize disruptions. Tracy Winfree said that the
staff is developing communications plans and strategies to inform the public about
construction.
Jerry Wyss recommended stating the motion to include a provision for avoiding
simultaneous lane closures on all corridors, to the extent possible. John Tayer asked the
staff to provide the TAB with regular updates on construction.
Jerry Wyss motioned to recommend approval of the Goose Creek project
CEAP making every effort possible to avoid simultaneous disruptions on
both 28`" Street and Foothills corridors and keeping the TAB and public well
informed about project implementation.
Alison Richards seconded.
John Taver amended the motion requesting that special attention be given to
the safety aspects and better connections to local businesses on 47u` St.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
AGENDA ITEM 8 -
Matters From Staff.
• The staff briefing on the Yarmouth Avenue CEAP was tabled until the April 2002
meeting to save time.
• Bob Whitson gave a PowerPoint presentation about the city's travel demand
management (TDM) program. Whitson defined TDM and described the TDM
subcommittee's goals. He also described a toolkit that the city is developing to help
the employers and citizens of Boulder use TDM strategies.
• Mike Gardner-Sweeney gave a brief presentation on the city's regional investment
accounting. The breakdown provided is primarily staff time and represents 2% of the
city's operating budget but the time has been leveraged into $16M from RTD,
DRCOG and CDOT to spend on regional projects. Jim Rettew asked to have a
comparable figure prepared for the amount of staff time (and associated budget) that
has been leveraged into money from those three entities to spend within the city of
Boulder limits.
• Tracy Winfree discussed the TAB training policy which has been modeled after the
Planning Board's informal policy and does not have a set budget attached to it but
will be evaluated on a per request basis.
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• Tracy Winfree pointed out the Weekly Information Packet memo about e-bikes that
the TAB received in the packets. The boards that have seen the e-bike issue have been
split on approval. The memo to the City Council details the issues and the staff
solution toward resolving some of those issues.
Matters From the Board:
■ Jerry Wyss asked about funding for the airport master plan. Brant Liebmann said that
he didn't think that the TAB deals with airport issues and Tracy Winfree said she
would check into that.
• Jim Rettew asked about traffic light timing and during the utility relocation work that
was done on Broadway. Jim Rettew asked about bus stop locations.
■ Brant Liebmann requested a future agenda item dealing with the possibility of a city
of Boulder contract to run bus service for RTD.
• Alison Richards thanked the TAB and staff for the recognition and talked about the
on-going projects that she would like to see get finished.
• The board retreat will take place on April 22, 2002. The agenda will be discussed at
the April 2002 meeting when the new TAB member is at the meeting.
AGENDA ITEM 9
Discussion of Future Meeting Agenda
• New board member
• TAB retreat
• Review of parking restriction for 72 hours ordinance.
.0 Bike signage
• Yarmouth Avenue CEAP
Next Meeting
April 8, 2002, 6:00 p.m., Transportation Advisory Board regular meeting, at the City
Council Chambers.
April 22, 2002, 6:00 p.m. (tentative), TAB Retreat, The Cork Restaurant.
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AGENDA ITEM 10
Adjournment
Alison Richards motioned to adjourn the meeting.
Jim Rettew seconded.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
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