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CITY OF BOULDER, COLORADO
BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEETING SUMMARY FORM
NAME OF BOARD/COMMISSION:
Transportation Advisory Board
DATE OF MEETING:
Nov. 10, 2003
NAME/TELEPHONE OF PERSON PREPARING SUMMARY:
Robin Madel, 303-441-4073
NAMES OF MEMBERS, COUNCIL, STAFF AND INVITED GUESTS PRESENT:
BOARD MEMBERS –TAB:
John Tayer, Jim Rettew, Brant Liebmann, Krista Holland, Bill Roettker
STAFF –
Mike Sweeney, Bill Cowern, Teresa Spears, and Robin Madel, secretary
WHAT TYPE OF MEETING [REGULAR]
Agenda Item 1 – Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 6:05 p.m.
Agenda Item 2 – Meeting Minutes from Sept. 8, 2003.
Krista Holland asked to have a portion of the last meeting minutes expanded upon. The minutes were approved as
amended.
Krista Holland motioned to approve the minutes as written.
Brant Liebmann seconded the motion.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
Agenda Item 3 – General Citizen Participation
Premena, P.O. Box 1038, Boulder, 80306-1038,
spoke about signage on the bike paths. He said he first brought
up the topic at a TAB meeting about two years ago and has brought it up at subsequent meetings. He has asked
the city to create a sign criterion because no specific protocol exists. The protocol was supposed to be ready at
least a year ago. Premena supplied an example where bike path signs have been installed inconsistently and in a
misleading way. His main concern is why signs aren’t installed in certain locations and what our criteria are for
installing signs. He would like to be able to look at the criteria that the city is supposed to create.
Alan Streater, 2830 Dover Dr., Boulder,
gave an update on the American’s with Disabilities situation as it
relates to the installation of driveway ramps and corner ramps in the city. Streater said that several months after
the agreement was made between the staff and the TAB, staff was still installing driveway ramps. After
numerous calls on his part, Streater said that the staff told him they had misinterpreted the agreement with the
TAB. They stopped installing the driveway ramps. With regard to the corner ramps, there were two preferences
that were discussed and so far the staff has not installed any that meet the first preference. The second preference
is not as good for wheelchairs and the TAB should revisit the issue. Streater said the TAB should ask the staff
what the agreement was. Also, people can still build a driveway with curb ramps if they pay for it themselves.
This policy should also be revisited. The staff has been reluctant to change. According to Streater this is probably
due to bureaucratic lethargy and the agreement should be clearly spelled out. Streater also encouraged the TAB to
think about RTD’s extortion of the city over the community bus network issue.
Bill Cowern gave the Board a summary of the city’s on-going programs for signing bike paths. Cowern said that
the city does not have a comprehensive policy for all bike signing. John Tayer suggested doing a press release to
announce the city’s bike signing program. Krista Holland said that several types of signs are not represented by
the summary on the handout that Cowern distributed. Holland said she is mainly concerned about safety-related
sign issues and she is also interested in getting signs placed where on-street paths end.
Mike Sweeney said that the staff has been conferring with the disabled community to gain input on the sidewalk
ramp issues. Sweeney said that national standards do exist and the city is compliant with those standards but the
sidewalks will be more or less traversable depending on a person’s disability. Sweeney said the issue requires
balancing the needs of different user groups. Sweeney said that the policy that allows private owners to build
driveway ramps in sidewalks is currently being reviewed and the staff will have more details about that in the
spring.
General Citizen Participation was closed.
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Agenda Item 4 – Staff briefing on the NTMP education program.
Teresa Spears reviewed the goals of the NTMP program in light of the budget reductions. The TAB chose a
program of enhanced education and attempted to determine if any “low hanging fruit” exist that can be used until
the program budget is restored. Spears presented a hand-out that outlined the educational component of the
program and defined low hanging fruit. Spears discussed the information that is sent to neighborhoods that
complain about speeding problems. Spears also discussed speed display devices that staff has available for either
temporary or permanent displays and radar guns that can be checked out by residents. The program includes
warning letters sent to speeders and written on Police Department letter head.
John Tayer said he thinks that the list of educational items shows a lot of creativity on the part of the staff to
show what can be done without a lot of money. Krista Holland said she thinks the program is great because it
gives the residents a chance to help and feel like they are doing something.
Spears discussed the definition of low hanging fruit. She said that staff was unable to devise any new strategies
and she recommended gaining closure on the term. She said she prefers referring to Steps 1-3 of the program.
Jim Rettew said that he considers elements of the educational component to be low-hanging fruit.
Bill Cowern discussed enhanced enforcement and Phase 2 of the program. If the staff determines that enhanced
enforcement has not had an impact on an area, then the neighborhood moves on to the next phase of the program
and something substantial is needed to impact traffic speeds. Spears added that the criterion for speeding
problems differs between the NTMP and the police department.
Rettew asked what the status is for completing an evaluation of the voting process within the NTMP. Spears said
that the evaluation had slowed a bit but she is still working on it.
Agenda Item 5 –
Matters From Staff:
Mike Sweeney discussed the US 36 Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) and an issues meeting to be held on
Nov. 12, 2003. Sweeney gave a brief update about the EIS process and how the project meshes with the RTD
Fastracks project. Sweeney said that while Fastracks includes the rail line planned from Boulder to Longmont,
the US 36 EIS does not. Sweeney said that city staff would be involved through technical committees and
through the mayors and commissions coalition.
Mike Sweeney said that now that the TMP has been approved, the staff focus has turned to development of a
work plan which will be presented to the TAB at an upcoming meeting.
Matters From the Board:
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John Tayer asked to have another TAB briefing about the 17 St. project before a final recommendation is
brought to the board. Sweeney discussed the status of the project which has gone before the city manager for
review and more information. Sweeney said that the TAB hearing date has been postponed. The main concern is
the public perception that staff is unresponsive. Tayer also asked the staff to be as clear as possible in presenting
the cost components of the project.
Agenda Item 6 – Discussion of Future Meeting Agenda
The next regular meeting will be on Dec. 8, 2003 and will include a discussion of the South Broadway safety
issue and a potential discussion on the Transit Village. Brant Liebmann said that he would not be able to attend
the December meeting.
Agenda Item 7 – Adjournment
Krista Holland motioned to adjourn the meeting.
Jim Rettew seconded the motion.
The vote was 5-0 in favor of the motion.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:48 p.m.
Date, Time, and Location of Next Meeting:
Dec. 8, 2003, 6:00 p.m. Transportation Advisory Board regular meeting, Municipal Building Council
Chambers.
Minutes approved on ______________
By __________________
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