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2 - Minutes - October 25, 2007CITY OF BOULDER PLANNING BOARD ACTION MINUTES October 25, 2007 1777 Broadway, Council Chambers A permanent set of these minutes and a tape recording (maintained for a period of seven years) are retained in Central Records (telephone: 303-441-3043). Minutes and streaming audio are also available on the web at: httu://www.bouldercolorado.QOV/ PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Elise Jones, Chair Willa Johnson Phil Shull, Vice-Chair Adrian Sopher Bill Holicky PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT: Richard Sosa Andrew Shoemaker STAFF PRESENT: Juliet Bonnell, Administrative Specialist Louise Grauer, Planner II Liz Hanson, Business Liaison Ruth McHeyser, Acting Planning Director Susan Richstone, Acting Long Range Manager Charlie Zucker, Consultant Marie Zuzack, Planner 1. CALL TO ORDER Chair, E. Jones, declared a quorum at 6:12 p.m. and the following business was conducted. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES No minutes were scheduled for approval. 3. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION 4. DISCUSSION OF DISPOSTTIONS, PLANNING BOARD CALL-UPS No items were scheduled for discussion. 5. ACTION ITEMS A. Walking tour and discussion on the review process and outcomes of the Twenty Ninth Street project. Staff Presentation L. Hanson led the Planning Board and staff on a walking tour of the Twenty Ninth Street site. Public Hearing No one spoke to this item. Board Discussion E. Jones noted that it is unique to have a large project like this with no public opposition and no efforts to slow down the development process. It was good that the project was moved through so quickly, but certain issues might have been pushed a little bit more, such as the frontage on 30`x' Street, housing, and mixed use. P. Shull regretted the redevelopment of McDonald's and Burger King in this space. He thought the 28`h Street and Arapahoe corner could have been better. The development of a framework plan was useful. He thought the name of the area should have been different than Twenty Ninth Street. A. Sopher wondered if the width of 29`x' Street was a wise choice because it pushes out against the surrounding streets as a vehicular street. L. Hanson noted that the developers were not interested in building another pedestrian mall. They wanted to build a vehicular mall because they didn't want to appear to be competing with the walking Pearl Street Mall. B. Holicky thought this design served its purpose well. He liked that it has vehiculaz access. The oversized pedestrian sidewalks have more of an impact on the width of the street than the street itself. The site plan for this looked good, but certain design matters weren't executed as well as they could have been. A. Sopher noted that Twenty Ninth Street isn't integrated into part of the surrounding street fabric. E. Jones noted that the vehicular access was designed to make the public awaze of what is here. ThinQS that work well at Twenty Ninth Street: W. Johnson liked that it is two stories and that some of the stores overlook the foothills. The types of stores that are located here, such as Home Depot, are good alternatives to Boulderites having to go to Flatirons Crossing to shop. A. Sopher liked that something happened in this space. Twenty Ninth Street feels like it comes into something, but this feeling could be enhanced. E. Jones liked that 29`h and Canyon and thru-streets. B. Holicky noted that Home Depot is integrated well into the site without being overwhelming. The southwest center is 4-sided to the parking lot which is nice. He liked the doors on 28`h Street. So much undergound parking at this density is great. Inclusion of office space is also good. The movie theater is integrated pretty well with the center and it doesn't interrupt the fabric/walkability of the rest of the shops. He liked the science kiosks and that there is room for people to breathe here. W. Johnson liked the plaza in front of Macy's with its urban respite feel and sundial. P. Shull thought it was a good thing that they recycled the center. Lessons learned/what they would do differently: W. Johnson thought it could be denser. A. Sopher thought there could be a stronger/more prominent street (29`h Street and along Canyon). He also suggested multi-story buildings along 28`h Street with office space. E. Jones mentioned that the 30`h Street frontage has walls and it would be nice to have doors instead. S. Sopher noted that Home Depot is difficult to integrate to a pedestrian environment. 2 P. Shull noted that inside the center they wanted pedestrian qualities, but didn't necessarily think of this area as pedestrian-friendly. A. Sopher found the neighborhoods limiting. B. Holicky noted that there is a difference between what looks good on paper and what is actually executed. The scale of the streets could have been better from a pedestrian standpoint. The knitting of this area to the outside world should have been considered more. He agreed with Rick Epstein's pros and cons of Twenty Ninth Street (which were handed out at the meeting). W. Johnson noted that this was built all at once by one designer resulting in it being a little monotonous with the same design mistakes throughout. B. Holicky thought that a better understanding of the parking relating to the uses was necessary. E. Jones mentioned the plaza and missed opportunities at its terminus. B. Holicky mentioned the movie theater entrance. P. Shull had issues with the middle half of the site between Walnut and Canyon. He questioned the southern parking structure, the old Mervyns building, and Macy's parking area and thought that something different should have been attempted with these parking areas. W. Johnson inquired how fixed the site plan is moving forward. L. Hanson replied that any changes to the site will go into site review where the area will evolve further. B. Holicky noted that some residential space would have been good to have here. P. Shull noted that the placement of drive-thrus on the property is very important. B. Update on initial implementation steps of the Transit Village Area Plan. Staff Presentation L. Grauer and Charlie Zucker presented the item to the board. B. Holicky recused at 8:15 p.m. for the MU-2 portion of C. Zucker's presentation. Public Hearing No one spoke to this item. Board Discussion The Planning Board didn't discuss this item in detail. 6. MATTERS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, PLANNING DIRECTOR, AND CITY ATTORNEY 7. DEBRIEF/AGENDA CHECK 8. ADJOURNMENT The Planning Board adjourned the meeting at 8:44 p.m. 3 APPROVED BY Board Chair DATE 4