Minutes - Planning Board - 10/18/2001APPROVED JANUARY 10, 2002
• CITY OF BOULDER
PLANNING BOARD SUMMARY MINUTES
October 18, 2001
Council Chambers Room, Municipal Building
1777 Broadway, 6:00 p.m.
The following are the minutes of the October 18, 2001 City of Boulder Planning Board meeting. A
permanent set of these minutes is kept in Central Records, and a verbatim tape recording of the
meeting is maintained for a period of seven years in Central Records (telephone: 303-441-3043).
BOARD PRESENT:
Macon Cowles
A1 Gunter, Chair
Thom Knieger
Tina Nielsen, Vice Chair
AIan O'Hashi
Beth Pommer
Mark Ruzzin
STAFF PRESENT:
Brent Bean, Senior Planner
• Bob Cole, Director of Land Use Review
David Gehr, Assistant City Attomey
Mary Lovrien, Board Secretary
Peter Pollock, Planning Directar
Mike Randall, Planner
1. CALL TO ORDER
Vice Chair Tina Nielsen declared a quorum at 6:00 p.m., and the Following business was conducted.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mny 24, 2001: On a motion by B. Pommer, seconded by M. Ruzzin, the Pianning Board approved
the minutes of May 24, 2001 as presented (6-0; A. Gunter was not present for this item).
June 21, 2001: On a motion by T. Kraeger, seconded by A. O'Hashi, the Planning Board approved
the minutes of June 21, 2001 as presented (6-0; A. Gunter was not present for this item).
June 28, 2001: T. Nielsen asked that the following sentence replace the first sentence on page 6 at
the beginning of the last paragraph: "J. Crain asked the Board to adopt a different map than the map
in the packet materials. He said that the Open Space and Mountain Parks Department is
recommending that a trail designation along the Union Pacific Rail corridor between 75th and 95th
Streets and the area between the city of Boulder and Lyons along the canal be changed to a study
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area." She asked that the following sixth sentence in that paragraph be deleted: "He said that the
OSBT is suggesting a study area along the Union Pacific railroad corridor between 75th and 95th
Streets and the area between the city of Boulder and Lyons along the canal." On a motion by T.
Krueger, seconded by B. Pommer, the Planning Board approved the minutes of June 28, 2001 as
amended (5-0; M. Cowles and A. Gunter were not present for this item).
July 19, 2001: On a motion by A. O'Hashi, seconded by T. Krueger, the Planning Board approved
the minutes of July 19, 2001 as presented (5-0; M. Cowles and A. Gunter were not present for this
item).
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
Ricky Weiser, 4020 North 75th Street: She noted that the controversy regarding the trails
alignment along the railroad corridar between 75th and 95th Straets and the canal trail is not being
handled well; every time she tries to find out what is happening with this issue, she is shuttled to a
different person. She said that she has had trespassers conducting surveys on her property along this
railroad corridor, and she is unaware what kiud of survey they are conducting. She said that she
would like to be informed if someone is on her property. She asked the Board to stay focused on
theseissues.
• 4. DISCUSSION OF DISPOSITIONS, PLANNING BOARD CALL-UPS
The Board had no comments on the Planning Department disposition (Floodplain Development
Permit for 2121 4th Street, Sunshine Creek Conveyance Zone) or the Planning Board dispositions
(1320 Meadow Avenue and 1744 30th Street Retail/Office Building).
5. MATTERS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, PLANNING DIRECTOR, AND CITY
ATTORNEY
(This item was discussed at the end of the meeting.) M. Cowles asked that the Planning Board
mimrtes from May 24, 2001 regarding the Boulder Valley Comprehensive Plan be given to the other
three approval bodies (Board of County Commissioners, County Planning Commission, and City
Council). He also asked that these minutes regarding the commercial growth management plan be
provided to the Jobs to Population Balance Task Force that will be involved in this process. P.
Pollock responded that the charge of the task force is to review the projections and to arrive at a
common agreement, define a range of options that will be taken to the public for their review and
comment, and talk about the process. M. Cowles suggested that the developers for the North Boulder
Village Center be notified about the Board's position with respect to the Holiday Drive-in Theater
site to help them with their design.
M. Ruzzin asked about the letter from a neighbor regarding the county Sundquist Building. P.
Pollock said that the neighbar is now getting direct notice to be involved in the neighborhood
meetings. A. Gunter commanted on tha need for mare housing in the region and why housing
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remains less affordable. He said that while the city is creating some af£ordable housing, everything
alse is less affardable because more jobs are added which will be Filled by people from outside the
state.
P. Pollock metttioned the following meetings and events: Leadership through Energy and
Environmental Design (LEED) training on October 22, staff training regarding Development 101
on October 23, the Jobs to Population Balance Task Force meeting on October 30, Four Mile Creek
neighborhood meeting on November 6, and a celebration of the SOth anniversary of the Planning
Department on November 7. He mentioned that the Board received a copy of the Crossroads
framework plan. He gave a brief outline of the University Hill zoning shidy that the Board will
discuss on October 25. He distributed a copy of last year's Planning Board applicant questions and
asked far suggestions for changes. He said that the deadline for Board applications is February 20.
T. Nielsen suggested that the other Board members tour the new recycling center.
6. ACTION ITEM5
A. Public hearing and consideration of a Concept Review and Comment
#LUR20U1-00043 for the fourth phase of One Boulder Plaza, located south of
Walnut between 13th and lAth Streets, to review a proposal for development of
up to 99,000 square feet of retail, office, and residential use withi-e a four-story
• building with heights of up to 55 feet.
B. Cole said that because the 14-day notice requiremenY was not met, the Board will conduct its
hearing on this item tonight and continue the public hearing to the November 1 meeting. He said that
at the November 1 meeting the Board will have an opportunity to provide additional comments, M.
Cowles asked that a brief staff presentation be made at that meeting if additional public is present.
B. Bean exp2ained that the applicatiou is the fourth pliase ofOna Boulder Plaza on the corner of 14Ch
and Walnut. He said that the applicanY is proposing to build three floors of residential units on the
property above the first floor of retail on the corner of 14th and Walnut. He addressed the four issues
identified: 1) Two of tha three alternatives proposed by the applicant show additional square footage
above the permitted Floor Area Ratio (FAR); 2) the Downtown Design Guidelines suggest that
buildings abova the second story be set back 20 feet; these guidelines have not been consistantly
applied in the downtown area but, given that the building is on the north side and will shade a
portion of Walnut Street, it is appropriate to heed this guideline; 3) the existence of the drive-up
faciliCy along Walnut Street where cunent regulations do not allow new drive-up facilities to be
developed in the downtown area unless the property fronts Canyon Boulevard; and 4) if the existing
drive-up facility is eliminated and the applicant uses all the square footage allowed on the proposed
site, they will not be able to convert this space to commercial activity. He said that becausa the
building is proposed to be more than two stories, the applicant will be required to apply for a site
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review, and the Downtown Design Advisory Board (DDAB) will review the project before it returns
to the Board for site review.
Jerry Lee, Applicant, agreed that 99,000 square feet is the maximum that will be allowed on the site.
He said Yhat whan the drive-up facility is eliminated, Yhe additiona13,000 square feet that is held in
abeyance wiil be used to fill in this area. He explained that the plan will include four stories,
inciuding two stories of underground parking. He explained the desire to connect the proposed
underground parking with that of the adj acent development to the north. He said that providing this
connection will require privatizing a sewer line under the vacated alley to accommodate the proposed
development and rarouting the line to connect to a line through the park that has additional capacity.
He explained the additional residential component of the plan and tl~e appropriateness of providing
housing on the second floor and the plan to step back the third and fourth floors 10 feet rather than
the 20 feet suggested. He explained the proposed exit and entrance for the parking garage.
Bill Reynolds, Applicant, 1860 View Point Road, discussed the reasons to build more residential
units on three stories, how costs can be minimized by stacking the residenfial units so fhat each unit
can be more affordable, and the average size of 1,200 square feet per unit with 30 units. He
mentioned that all inclusionary zoning requirements would be on site. He explained the lease
arrangement that the bank has on the site.
~ Charles Deane, 625 Pleasant Street, showed the elevations of alternatives one and two of the
proposed development showing ways that the drive-up facility could be developed should that use
be eliminaYed. He explained the possibility of 30 residential units on the second floor as well as the
third and fourth floors. He described the architectural feature on the northeast corner of the building
and the stepping of the third and fourth floors. He said that the third alYernative, which is not being
considered now, involves ralocating the drive-iip facility to make it safer.
Public Participation: There was no public participation.
Return to the Board:
The Board reviewed the key issues, including the guidelines for the 20-foot setbacks for the third and
fourth floors to prevent shading issues and the purpose of the open space requirement imposed in
Yhis zoning district and to what extent is it a benefit for the public and to what extent it is a benefit
for the tenants of the building.
The fotlowing comments were made by individual Board members and not by consensus:
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• Conduct an analysis of what the shading would Ue with the 10-foot setback rather than the
suggested 20-foot setback; ice formation due to shading would be a problem for walkers on
the side across from the RTD bus station.
• The Downtown Design Guide(ines were developed to alIow flexibility; allow the applicant
setback flexibility to develop a better design, especially given the residential component of
the project.
• Step back the third and fourth floors to give adequaYe deck space or open space for the
residents.
• Devalop the second, third, and fourth floors as residential with a setback for the third floor
and an additional setback for the fourth floor on the coi~ner to allow for open space; provide
some additional open space far the second floor since there will not be a setbaclc From the
street and along 14th Street as it overlooks the RTD bus station.
• Build the residential lobby on Walnut Street rather than on the alley, and bitild the cora of
the elevator away from bedrooms or with additional soundproofing.
~ • Relocate the sewer line to make a better parking lot design.
• Review the noise enforcement far the mixed-use areas.
• A strong architectural feature on the corner is a benefit.
• Provide the 20 percent of affordable housing on this site to get a mix of incomes (applieant
agreed to the condition at the time the first three phases were approved).
• Find a way to address the groundwater in the area by developing some swales downstream
where the stormwater runs off the site to keep it out of the creeks.
• Make sure that the affordable units are at least 80 percent ofthe total residential building area
ar 1,200 square feet.
• Housing development in this part of town is appropriate bacause most of the surrounding
uses are located indoors and will not cause noise issues.
• Encourage the elimination of the drive-up facility as soon as possible to fill in that space.
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B. Public hearing and consideration of a Concept Review and Comment
#LUR2001-00048 for Gunbarrel Town Center, for a mixed use plan comprised
of approximately 138 dwelling units and 200,000 square feet of commercial
space located at the southwest corner of Lookout Road and Gunpark Drive.
B. Cole said that bacause the 14-day notice requirement was not met, the Board will conduct its
hearing on this item tonight and continue the public hearing to the November 1 meeting. He said
that at the November 1 meeting the Board will have an opporhinity to provide additional comments.
He further axplained that this is the first step in the procass, that the applicant, Board and public will
share ideas, and the applicant will then take these ideas to refine the plan and submit a site review
application with a more detailed set of plans for Board decision.
M. Randall said that the proposal is part of a Planned Unit Devalopment (PUD) approved in 1981
and represants the central retail area of Gunbarrel. He said that residential units would be built on
two levels with retail uses on the streat level and office uses on the second floor. He addressed the
following key issues: 1) conformance to the goals and objectives of the Boulder Valley
Comprehensive Plan, 2) compatibility of the building designs with the types of uses in the area, 3)
presentation of an attractive streetscape and incorporation of design alements appropriate to a
pedestrian scale, 4) inclusion of a variety of uses and spaces that are conducive to pedestrian/bike
i use, neighborhood service and community activities, and 5) whether requested modifications to
davelopment standards are justified, including parking, open space, and height. He addressed the
types of uses proposed, including a possible civic use. He described the square footage and types of
uses noted in the phases of the original PUD.
B. Cole said thaY the site is still a mapped wetland, so the applicant has to initiaYe a process under
the code in order to remove that designation; there will then be an analysis conducted to determine
whether a wetland stili exists. He discussed the bus service that is available Yo the site and its
frequency.
Terry O'Connor, Applicant, 7312 Windsor Drive, said that those people who attended the
neighborhood meetings were notified of this meeting by e-mai] messages. He explained the history
of the planning of the property since he purchased the parce] in 1991. He discussed how this plan
personifies "smart growth" or the creation of urban centers and neighborhoods in compact
development near job centers where people want to congregate. He said that in order for the open
space requirement of 1,200 square feet per residential unit to work, there needs to be financial
participation both from the public and the private developers. He discussed the benefits from such
a development, including a better shopping opportunity, a health-foofl oriented grocery store, locally-
owned and operated restaurants, a medical center, a health club with attached swimming pool and
day-care canter, an upscale drug store, and easy access to convenience-type stores that locate around
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the local grocary store. He said that a community canter, a brauch library, and an hourly rental car
facility for the residents are envisioned. He explained that this parcel is the only property in
Gunbarrel that will allow retail, residential, and office uses. He addressed the population to jobs
imbalance in Gunbarral and said that there are approximately 18,000 jobs and about 15,000 residents
in Gunbarrel.
Eric Hartronft said that it was a challenge to creata a retail center with housing that the people of
Gunbanel want and what the market will support. He presented pictures of different types of
developments that were shown at the neighbarhood meetings where the neighbors responded with
their likes and dislikes. He said that providing some office space will provide a customer base for
the retail and residential uses; simply building a shopping center with residential uses will not wark.
He described the concept far the interior of the site, including a fountain, a ro~mdabout to slow the
traffic, a plaza area to create people spaces, 1 connection with this project and the King Soopers
shopping center. He also described the proposed uses, including three floors of residential, office
space, and retail, a uiedical center, health c1uU and a roof-top pool, a possible Urauch library, and
surface and underground parking. He addressed the need to keep parking on the site and proposed
bicycling amenities and linkages from this site to the existing houses in Gunbarrel.
Pnblic Participation;
~ Paul HIamer, Table Top Court: He said that tl~is parcel, together with the surrounding area, needs
to be the focal point of the Gunbarrel community in the same way that the Pearl SYreet Mall is the
focal point of the Boulder community. He suggested that the Board create a community gathering
place that is uniquely local and identifiable, a night spot as well as a day spot, a home far local
government should that eventually occur, and a place that invites the kinds of shops and amenities
that are needed. He said that the project should inspire redevelopment of the adjacent properties to
give Gunbarrel the identity and amenities it craves. FIe also said that tra£Fic congestion along
Lookout Road, the location oP a branch library, and the siting of a recreation center should be
addressed. Ha said that the city of Boulder has cxtracted dollars from the large corporate and
manufacturing tax base in Gunbarrel with little return to the subcommunity. He said that if a good
subcommunity plan were conducted with a livable town center, the city might have a good chance
of annexing the rest of Gunbarrel.
Corine Weber, Red Fox Hills: She said that Gunbanel needs a town center with a natural food
gcncery store, fewer chain stores, and smaller shops with landscaping to create a park-like
atmosphere. She said that she would like to see discreet signage on the stores, and the town center
and the residential part of the center should reflect the existing real estate prices.
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Jeana Hyatt, Gunbarrel Greens: She said that in the 1980s the wetland in this area was changed
because constraction materials were dumped on tha land. She suggested that some of the revenue
paid to the city of Bouider from the Gunbarrel commercial uses be funneled back into the
community. She said that she does not agree with the extensive development on this size lot. She
was concerned about the reduction in parking, the underground parking sited on unstable soils, and
that the affordable housing would not be provided on the site but placed on another project. She said
that Gunbarrel is not a town but a community and suggested that such a name not be givan to the
development. She suggested that all stakeholders be involved in this project and that all concerned
citizens be notified. She said Yhat if the residents knew of the variances requested for this project,
the room would be filled with people from Gunbarrel.
Chack Simmons, Cottonwood Drive: He said that he prefers restaurants and speciality shops that
prevent people in Gunbarrel from having to drive to other towns. He was concerned that mistakes
may be made by going too fast with this proposal, that there is nothing in the ptan that fits within the
PUD, that tha parking and open space requirements are being reduced, and that the height of the
building will not be attractive. He said that this site must be developed in a positive way for the
community and not left as a dumping ground for building slash.
Ted Napa, W indsor Court: He applauded the applicant for communicating with the residents about
• the community meetings. He said that height would only impact the viaw corridor from the offices
on Gunpark Drive, and the only views that would be lost otherwise are the backs of Gunbarrel
Square and King Soopers. He said that he is excited about the project, and the applicant has made
an affort to bring focus to Gunbarrel.
Don Sterling, Idlewild Trail: He was concerned about the 55-foot height of the building when all
the other buildings in the vicinity have a 35-foot limit. He said that increasing the height limit would
be a severe impact to those people who live across the golf course. He said that ha does not see how
att these wonderful, myriad things can be accomplished on only seven acres of land and askad where
the town center will be built. He said that integrating a portion of this development with the existing
center would be the only way that this could make sense. He commanted on the existing traffic
problem, especialiy on Lookout Drive. He said that he would prefer to ]ook at the vacant lot rather
than to have this proposal come to fruition.
Jessica Hartell, 6H68 Twin Lake Road: She said that she lives very close to the property, but there
is no sidewalk that allows her to get thera. She said that the existing strip-mall does not wark and
is not very pleasant. She said that she is concerned with how this davelopment would integrate
within the community. She said that this is a great opportunity to make Gunbarrel a wonderful place
to work and live. She asked for cooperation with the city and county to address the location of a
library branch, pedestrian access to the site from the neighborhoods, access to Foothills and the
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Diagonal, the relationship between other attractions, such as Celestial Seasonings and Leanin' Tree,
and creation of a safa space for kids to play and a sustainable business viabitity.
Molly Tayer, 620 Yale Road: She discussed the notification process. She suggested that the staff
and applicant be allowed to make a presentation at the next meeting if new members of the public
are present and that a summary of the comments be provided. She asked that staff publish in ihe
newspaper the approved change in notification for concept reviews so that citizens know the
procedure. She also suggested that staff work with the Boi2lder Daily Camera to ensure that
notification occurs properly.
Return to the Board:
The Board and staff discussed subcommunity planning, including a smaller-scale review of
connections and integration of the town center with the surrounding area; the eneouragement by staff
to work together with the applicant for future redavelopment so that options for further
improvements are not foreclosed by picking a particular development pattem that might block off
someone else from improving their site; the heighY regulations that require that a structure proposed
for over 35 feet would need a site review process; the 1991 Gunbarrel annexation discussions; the
fact that there is no view protection ardinanee; the intention to provide all 20 percent of the
• affordable units on site; jobs to popularion balance in Gunbarrei; the reasons far the rush to develop
the project; an article in the American Planning Association journal regarding town centers, the
space that is consumed by cars, and the space created for the pedestrian experience; and the process
and presentation of the proposed changes for the contimied meeting on November 1.
Individual Board members made the following comments, not by consensus:
Discuss with the community and adjacent property owners the details ofthe plans regarding
how the parcel can be developed in a regional way; keep the Guubarrel community involved
in the discussions.
Provide more residential units on the site and reduce the commercial and office space if a
height variance is requested to be consistent with the Boulder Valley Comprehensive Plan
goals of sustainability.
Observe the wetlands ordinance for the site; consider the importance of stormwater detention
areas so that natural precipitarion that falls on this parcel is not immediately consigned to the
storm sewer system; develop creative ways to ciean surface ntnoff before it either percolates
into the ground or moves oFf-site, such as on-sita swales.
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• Allow the applicant flexibility to respond appropriately to market needs for the mixed use
plan with the understanding of the importance of this balance of jobs to population.
• Provide the 20 percent of affordable housing on this site; this achieves another important
goal of mixed-use development which is having people of diverse incomes living in one
space.
• Make sure that the view corridors make sense.
• Consider meeting the needs of people oF all ages, including the oldest members of the
community; determine what would draw them to the open space and how they would use it;
consider a pocket park to draw families with children and their pets; create space and
amenities that will meet the needs of the residents--children, open space, play area.
• Consider a varianca from the 1,200 square feet of open space that is required for each
residential unit.
• Consider new bicycle and pedestrian linkages to the site.
• • Consider referencing the project as something other than a town center because some
neighbors do not consider that Gunbarrel is a town but rather a community.
• Invite a representative from the Housing Department to explain to neighbors what affordable
housing means so that they have a better concept of who will be living there.
• Consider appropriate lighting on the site because of its proximity to housing.
• Provide additional information on the rationale for the parking reduction because
sunounding businesses seem to need a lot of parking;
• Consider that too much is planned for the site; the proj ect represents density for the sake of
density; the height of 55 feet when everything else is 3S feet and trying to make a city center
when there is no padestrian or bicycle connections do not make sense; the development
should not be located in a suburb because in the amount of retail proposed on the site will
not prevent people from driving into Boulder; do not put this manypeople on Lookout Road.
• Dafine what a transit center for the site means.
• Davelop a good Transportation Demand Management (TDM) plan that includes a wide range
of options to get people to use alternative transportation modes; have a conversation with the
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city about the TDM plan since staff is developing such a program to add validity and
substance for a parking reduction.
• Provide more detail on the plans and the internal circulatiou; the traffic circle might be a part
of a larger park rather than having the fountain in the middla unless there is enough space
around the fountain to keep people out of the traffic; the pockat park by the fountain is a nice
concept, and the mix is nice.
• The original PUD with its strip mall development would not have served the area well
because now the needs of the araa are much better deFined.
• Make sure the parking on the periphery of the site is landscaped and buffered and is a nice
transition from Gunpark Drive and Lookout Road.
• Recognize the importance of making sure that the area is active during the day and
economically viable; consider the mixCure of uses and kinds of restaurants to ensure that it
will be an active center at night.
• Work on the jobs to population imbalance by targeting a 1 fo 1 ratio; develop proformas to
• determine what it would look like to have tbis xatio and then conduct a market shidy to see
if it will be viable as a town center.
• Set the tone for the rest ofthe area so that future development will step up to the same quality
of redevelopment.
• Proposed retail will not meet needs of Gunbarrei residents; they wi11 still go to
Longmont/Boulder for Home Depot/Target, clothing, etc.
• Prefer the original PUD to the proposed development because the impacts on the community
would be so much less.
• Either eliminate the office space or provide first floor office along Main Street; put the office
and residence together and sell them as one piece because otherwise if sold separately the
residents will not work there.
• The overall site needs to be planned and cannot be done a piece at a time; the parcels all
around the site are unattractive.
• This plan is unlikely to get the support of the majority of the residents in the community.
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• Do not try to make a downtown Boulder project--must fit Gunbarrel.
• It does not make sense to pay the extra $15,000 per car far underground parking in the
suburban setting; TDM will be difficult because everyone will' drive--even For short
distances.
• The town center should be two-story or maybe three story buildings and scaled with the
community which is mainly single family housing and some multi-family housing.
• The design of this project provides a large amount of space for cars but by placing parking
undergronnd so that when pedestrians emerge, they can get immediately to the more
pedestrian space.
• Consider providing a 30,000 square foot grocery store.
• Create the right kinds of jobs which means not just office or grocery store jobs just for the
sake of s»ch jobs.
• The mix of sbops and retail in the north Boulder shopping center across from the hospital
~ would work in Gunbarrel; new urbanism used in the right spot can make wonderful
developments but not sure it would in Gunbarrel.
• The proposal tries to present a front on Gunpark Driva but really it does not--all activity is
in the center and does not relate to other nearby uses.
Height should be checked so that it does not block existing views from residential areas.
7. ADJOURNMENT
The Planuing Board adjourned the meeting at 10:45 p.m.
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