HomeMy WebLinkAboutApproved Minutes - 5/19/2003City of Boulder
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
Minutes
May 19, 2003
North Boulder Recreation Center
3170 Broadway
6 p.m.
The following are the minutes of the May 19, 2003 City of Bouldet~ Parks antl Recreation
Advi.rory Board meeting (PRAB) A permanerct set of these mcnutes and a tape recordang
(rnaantaaned for a peraod of 6 years) are reta~ned in Central Records (telephone
303-441-3043).
Board Present: Charles Manlove, Chair; Thomas Sanford, Suzanne O'Neill, Pam Hoge
and Stu SYuller
Board Absent: Susan Osborne, Vice Chair; Ed von Bletchert
Staff Present: Jan Geden, Fiank Bruno, Jeff Lakey, Jamie Sabbach, Doug Hawthorne,
Geargia Jackson, Ten Olander, Julya Bridgewater, Chuck McElwam,
Ann Wichmann, Cate Bradley and Tom Kramei
I. APPROVAL Or AGENDA
The introduction of Frank Bruno, Crty Manager, was moved to first on the agenda.
II. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
Crtizen Parucipation was opened.
No one spoke
Citi~en Participation was closed.
III. CONSENT AGENDA
The rrunutes of Apii128 were approved as submitted.
IV. MATTERS F'ROM THE DF,PARTMENT
Intioduction of Fiank Bruno
Manlove wclcomed the City Manager and eaid the Board appreciated lhe opportumty to
meet h~m
Bruno spoke brieily about his background, wark history and experience with parks and
recreation m the city of Fort Collms, He also spoke about the challenges of budget cuts.
Bruno thanked Board members for theii work and contribution to the Bouider
community
2004-2009 Greenw~s Capital Impiovement Piogram
Manlove said Gieenways improvements between Broadway and ] 9`~' Street might
impact the undevelopcd park srte located there. Geden suad statj would look cnto the
matter to see what degree of anvolvement maght be needed by Parks and Recreation
staff
Hoge asked ~f there was coardination of weed management along the Greenways
Geden replied that the approved IPM process was an place and each entaty responsable
for rraaantenance has to follow the analysas procedure beFore any treatment could be
done on those lands. Manlove said all departments are followmg the same ptocedural
guidelmes. O'Neall added that she dad not know of uny coordanation of departments and
,sa~d the treatment of noxaous weeds was an ongoang process. Geden said she would e-
mail Guthrie to fmd out if there is coordmation of weed management along the
Greenways by various entities Manlove said he assumed Annie Noble, Grcenways
Coordinator, was followmg what ~s bemg done along Greenways.
Progress on paik land ac~c u~srtion under the 1995 (0 25%) Sales Tax mrtiatrve
Hoge said in the past the Boaid has expressed a desire for flexibility to respond quickly
if and when land becomes available for purchase. She mqui~ed about speedmg up the
process to re-allocate funds Geden replaed Chat an outgoeng years there is some money
allocated for thas purpose She addecl that af a properry came on the market that was of
anterest, staff would come to the Board to look at re-priorztizing the current Capctal
Impravement Program (CIP) Geden reminded Boarcl members that at present there
asn't a lot of money in the CIP to purehase land
Manlove said the Board has had such discussions m the past but the current problem is
stu•mkmg resources. He added lhat there wasn't enough money lo set aside m case
somethmg comes up. Manlove said it makes sensc to allocate the available resouices,
recogmzmg that if somethmg comes up the Board can re-pnaritize pro~ects and re-
allocaYe those resources.
Hoge said she wanted to know how the process of re-allocating funds could be expedited
so as not to miss opportumties Geden replaed that staf f could come back quackly to the
Board with ~nformataon on allocataon and choaces as there is not a lot of flexabal~ty an the
capital budget Bridgewater mformed Board members that $2 7 million of the $20
milhon budget is spenY on debt service which means over 10°l0 of the budget is spenY to
pay off land thaC that was previouely purchased.
Manlove added that even if there weie money set aside, Board members would st~ll have
to have a d~scussion to determme whether they wanted to make a purchase. Sanford
satid setting asade funds is difficult as the purchase prices of land can vary greatly
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Geden said she heard Hoge saymg she would I~kc to jump start Yhe process for land
purchases as they comc up Gedcn said lhat ~f land becomes available staff could easily
be prepared to come Co lhe Board at the next meetmg and address the issue
O'Neill said she would hke eCaff to look for creative solutions for such thmgs as pocket
parks She added that neighborhood groups might be willmg to pitch in and take care oT
the park mamtenance
Geden said Goss Grove is a Transpoitation Department easement ihat neighbors
considered a park. She spoke of how Parks and Recreauon staff and neighbors worked
together to make ~mprovements there Hawthorne saad the viceaghbor•hood workecl with
Growang Gardens to obtain a grant to turn one of the three sates into a communaty
garden. Hawthorne added that a bench, trash can and dog pool~ collectton stations
were added at each of those locations
Sanford asked if revenue from lhe Lottery Fund ~e still stable Geden repl~ed an the
affarmative and saed that property trtixes and the Lottery Fund are the most stable
funcltng sources
V. MATTERS FROM I30ARD MEMBERS
Hoge referred to the d ee mamtenance easement foi the Feder properly that was
discussed at the April PRAB meeung Shc wanted to know if the homeowners could cut
down the trees Hawthorne expluined Chat the tree maantenance easement was for the
homeowner to be able to tram branches overhangang the clraveway.
Hoge asked if staff had a date for the MasCer Plan Study Session Geden replaed that
staff was work~ng on at
O'Neill said she read m the newspaper that a hisCoric cemeCe~ y m Aspen wae bemg
restored She wondered if Chey were usmg the same expert thal Bouldei was usmg and
if not theie mighl be potenk~al for competitive pricmg. Hawthorne re~laed that he would
check into the matter. He added thr~t staff was already an discuss~on with another firm
in Denver that does headstone restoration
Stullcr inquncd about re-seedmg Pleasant View Fields Hawthorne replie~l that the
pro~ect would begin the second or thard week of June Ae added that the facility would
be closed for several months while seven out of the etghtfaelds are re-seedect
Geden said analysis is bemg done to determme what needs lo be done to brmg back thc
land after last year's droughl She spoke about plans to conclude Phase I at Valmont
City Park, to finish one acre out of four at Elmer's Two Mile Park and to fimsh the
landscapmg at the North Boulder Reci eation Center Geden added thal staff is trymg Co
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be very ~udicious as iC is not yet known how drought conditions will be laler in the
summer.
Geden said a Weekly Information Packet (WIP) was bemg prepared far Council to
explam what needs to be done for turf restoiation m paiks and athletic i"ields She added
that Board members would also receive a copy of the WIP. Geden said seedmg and
replamng sod are additional costs Lhat come al a time when the DeparCment has been
asked to make a 25°~o General Fund reduction. She added that this affecLs the Paiks
Div~sion Che hardest as that umY is almost entirely funded by the General Fund. Geden
said staff is prioritizmg the budget and how facilities are managed by first mamtaming to
the highest levcl the revenue ~enerating facilrties. Manlove said there are clearly
communicataon assues that w~ll need to he urldressed.
Hawthonre mformed the Board that Public Works has ~usC mformed Parks and
Recreation ihat an additional three milhon gallons of waCer is available for field
resCoration. This additional water called "free flow" ~s available through tbe end of June
and is water that would simply flow downstream if not used. The additional water will
be added onto the current water allotment
Stuller said he would l~ke information on turf and field restoraCion to be made available
to the public m the newspaper Geden saticl thes anformation would be communacated to
the press
VI. ITEMS FOR ACTION
A. Review of 2004 Parks and Recreation Capital Improvement Program
Presenters: Jan Geden, CPRP, Director of Parks and Recreation
Julya Bridgewater, Administrative Services Division Director
Bridgewater gave a brief overview of the Capital Improvement Program budget
On a motion by Stuller, seconded by O'Neill, the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Boaid voted unarumously (5 - 0 with Osborne and von Bleichert absent) to
approvethe proposed CIP
B. Public hearing and consideration of a motion to renew an Agreement with
the Boulder Aeromodeling society to use the Boulder Model Airport facility
Presenters: Jan Geden, CPRP, Director of Parks and Recreation
Ann Wichmann, Environmental Resources Manager
Wichmann spoke briefly about the issue and conceins related to renewing an
Agreement w~th the Boulder Aeromodelmg Society (BAS) to use the Boulder
Model A~iport facilrty.
The Publ~c Hearing was opened.
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No one spoke
The Public Hearmg was closed
On a molion by Sanfoid, seconded by Hoge, the Parks and Recreation Adv~soiy
Board voted unanimously (5 - 0 wiCh Osborne and von Bleichert absenl) lo
approve the agreement wrth the Boulder Aeromodelmg Society
VII. ITEMS FOR DISCUS5ION/INFORMATION
A. Proposed City of Boulder Lighting Ordinance
Presenter: Jan Geden, CPRP, Director of Parks and Recreation
JefT Lakey, Superintendent of Parks and Recreation Planning
and Development
Lakey gave the Qoard an overview of the proposed hghtmg ordmance
Board Comments and Questions
• Sanford said he agrees with the lightmg ordmance as a goal to reach for but
said he would like to see lightmg fixtuies allowed to remam m place through
their cuirent life cycle. A~ that time they could be replaced wilh lightmg that
ts in compliance
• Manlove suggested degrees of non-compliance With lightmg t~xtures baiely
over lhe threshold he suggested letting the fixlures wear out but fixlures
200% over the limrt would have to be ch~nged immediately
• Hoge agrees with lhe not~on of trymg to evaluate m teims of what makes
more sense For example, if the newly mstalled lighYing at the Norih Boulder
Recieation Center were not m comphance, she would not hke to have to
replace it
• Hoge strongly supports the notion Chat if something is egiegious ~t should be
a pnority for replacement She would like to prioritize that way irutially,
even before the 15-year amort~zation
Lakey mformed Board members that he recently was notified of conce~ ns aboul
the lights at MapleCOn Ballfield
Lakey stated thal Plannmg Department staff really liked the hghting of the North
Boulder Recreation Center parkmg lot.
• Stuller asked for claiification on staff's Chird recommendation lo the Plannmg
Board and Crty Council Lakey gave an example of a parkang lot w~th an
~sland an the meddle of at that has both a tree ancl kghtang ~n it. If the code
changes and does not allow for a tree next to a light then eather the tree
would have to be cut down or move the light Lakey saad staff wants to ra~se
the issue of resolvang confl~cts with other plannang sYandar~ds.
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• Manlove suggested removmg the words "If the fmal ordmance overlooks
these issues, then" from the begmning of the last senlence m stafP's second
recommendalion The second recommendation would thcn begm wrth "I'he
cost to bring the DepaiCment's facihties mto compliance will "
• Board members were m agreement w~th the recommendations and their
comments w~ll be given to Planning Board and Council
B. Review Site Review Application for the proposed Northfield Commons and
Vojta Farms (formerly NorihCeld Meadows) subdivisions
Presenters: ,ian Geden, CPRP, Director of Parks and Recreation
Cate Bradley, Parks and Recreation Planner
Jeff Eckert, Coast to Coast Development
Mike Randall, Planning Department
Bradley gave an overvicw of the process to dale and said Board comments would
be foiwarded to the Plamm~g Board for their coneideration as they review the
Srte Review submittal
Board Comments and Ouestions
• San1'ord said he feels the park s~zes are too small for the density of the area.
and asked about the numbei of units in Vo~ta Farms and No~lhfield
Commons. Randull replied that the proposed conceptplan ha.s 141 untts at
Vo~ta Farms and 190 unats at Northfield He added that the density ~s not
low in part because of the hegh percentage of affordable unats.
• Bradley said given CounciPs stiong support for development of affo~dable
housing opporCUnrties m the community thc developeis aie tiymg to balance
providmg enough affordable housmg on the site with settmg aside acreage
for private homeownei association parks.
• Bradley stated the park acreage per lhousand standard was bemg met
However, the sizes of the paiks do not meet the five ac~ e minimum
netghborhood park standard and therefore the service iadius (1/4 mile f'or
undei 5 ac~es and one-half mile for 5 acres or larger) She pomted out that
Slks Park (wesC of 28~~' Street) has a one-half mile aervice iadius extendmg
mto the developments because an underpass can be used to access the park
Bradiey added that because of such overlappmg service areas there ~s very
httle, if any, residential development m this location that is outside of a park
serv~ce radius
• Hoge asked for claiificalion on standards for patk stze and setvice radius.
Bradley replaed that there are two differentpark standards One standard is
acreage per thousand and that staredard es being met There as also a
sCandard for saze of parks relative to the serviee area Residents wtth~n a hal~
male o~a five-acre park would be considered served Lakewise residents
wathan a quarter rreale of a park under five acres would he considered served
by department .rtanclctrds The parks ~n these developments are all less than
five acres and therefore have a quarter male servace radius.
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Floge asked af developers have to provade parks. Bradley responded in thc
negative and said commumty benefit ~s considered m an annexation and that
could be a variety of thtngs such as parks or affordable housmg.
Manlove atated that thcre is only so much commumty benefit thaY can be
gained from an annexation and some of those thmgs are m conflict -
affordable housmg and parks. Manlove said in the three scenarios developed
with staff it was ~ronic that as the density went up the amount of park land m
each of those scenarios wenl down As the populahon of the pro~ect
mcreaeed the private open space decieased and tl~e need for pubhc open
space mcieased Manlove concluded by saymg that those weiedt the
devclopei's proposals and that a dtfferent proposll is being considered
tonight.
Sanford said the eonilicts would disappear m the Commons aiea if thc
Boulder Valley School District land could be obtamed in the future for park
land He feels Che park size for Vo~ta Farms will always remam madequate
for Che area
Hoge mquned about the possibiliry of a ~omt agreement wilh the School
District to oblam a portion of the propeity for park land. Bradley said the
School Dastrict is aware of the Department's anterest an that possabilaty.
Hoge asked ~f it would be possible to come up wrth some money to expand
those parks Bradley saad the Departrraent had orag~nally hoped to purchase
one acre of land for a park. The developer will now provade two acres, one
acre ~n each locateon, whtch wall be twace the amount of park lancl. Whale
Chose wall be pravate homeowner assocaateon parks, staff'feels most of the
area as adequately served by public park,s. Hoge said thts ts a new
devclopmenl and Che time to take advantage of the situalion because laCer on
the opportunity will be gone Brculley satid Board memhers would have to
make that assessment- whether tha.r as an area signaficantly underser•ved and
a real problem for the neighborhood. Bradley added that she d~d not know
whether expandang the park s~zes could be an option at tha,s stage
Eckert said the developers have tried to balancc all of the different thmgs
they heard from the Planning Board in teime of commumty benefits•
affordablc housmg, trail systems connectivity and environmenlal issues He
added thal they also took into account the concerns expressed by the PRAB
and neighborhood groups Based on all of th~s he feels the concept plan they
came up with is a pretty good solution.
Manlove said it bothers him that there is lhe impression that a large ai ea of
the proposed developmenL is underseived, which is not the case. i'or h~m the
very small 47`h and Jay corner piece Chat ~s not wrthm Yhe service radius ~s
relaCrvely tmy when compared to oYher unmet areas m the whole city To
ded~cate veiy hmited iesources mto this area is a very low pnorrty for
Manlove.
Hoge said the Board has heard in the past that Palo Park ~s heavily used for
soccer practice by people from outside the ncighborhood Bradley sacd it as
true that Palo Park ts used as a soccer practice field but that's true for many
parks thr~~ughout the system. It's not unaque to thas locat~on and as an assue
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that came up cn the Needs Assersment Thas assue wall have to be udd~essed
an the Master Plan, ~n terms of provasion of facelatees lake Yhat in locations
where at's appropriate and what can be done to take sorree of Che pressure off
neeghbor•hood parl~s that weren't antended to serve thatfunction. Olander
said the problem comes from bemg underserved in soccer fields oi mult~-
purpose fields. All those soccer players are encroaching on tl~e service areas
of the parks.
O'Neill asked if Yhe PRAB will be relegated to an after-Yhe-fact review of the
park design Br•adley repliecl that thas as a very early stage of the revaew of a
s~ec~fic submattal. Everythcng talked aboutprior to this has been conceptual
/3ased on other conversataons weth the developer, Bradley feels they w~uld he
amenable to sattang down and ~oang over• these desagns. Eckert concurred
and said at this stage of the process they normally don't provide that kind of
detail
Sanfard said he hopes the homeowner associations for these parks will be a
loC more diligent and cohesive than the one he lives m addmg that he has a
real conecrn for homeownei association managed parks Geden concurred
and .raad she has seen muny tames where the park system was asked to take
on the types o~parks that the department would not have developed.
Manlove said he is a little less concerned about that for th~s slte as the multi-
family buildmgs will probably have extei~or mamlenance that needs to be
handled through the homeowners association and not ~ust mamtenance of two
small park stCes Manlove added that because of the multi-family buildmgs,
the assessmenls would be m place to provide funding for Che paik
mamtenance.
Hoge asked if prrvate parks have to meet city standards m terms of water use
and pesticide use Bradley replaed that the developers have traed to create
designs that are water conserving and provade approp~~iate planting fnr this
a~ea in terms of habitat and wildlefe
Randall spoke on combming uses for trails, parks and stoim dramage to their
best utility
Board members expressed agreement with the staff recommendatrons and
requestcd that iecorded comments be given lo the Plamm~g Boaid to consider
as they review the Site Review applicaCion
Bradlcy stated lhat staff and Board comments would be submitted to the
Plannmg Board when th~s item goes to them for their ieview
C. Scott Carpenter Pool update
Presenters: Jan Geden, CPRP, Director of Parks and Recreation
Tom Kramer, Recreation Administrator
Kramer spoke brieily on lhe hislory of Scolt Carpentei Pool and provided Board
members with an update on the renovation of the pool, which is scheduled to
reopen on May 24
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VIII. FUTUR~ BOARD ITEMS AND TOURS
Tour of Coot Lake/Tom Wateon Park - The toui will mclude the mterpreCive trail,
pra~rie dog srtes and noxious weeds. It was decided that stafl' would contact Board
members to select a date for the tour
IX. NEXT BOARD MEETING:
Monday, June 23, 2003
X. ADJOURN
The mectmg ad~oarned at 8:43 p m
APPROVED BY PARKS AND
RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
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Charles Manlove
Board Cha~r
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Recordmg Secretary
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