Approved Minutes - 2/25/2002DO NOT REMOVE -
PRAB File Matenal
City of Boulder
r Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
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Minutes
February 25,2002
City Council Chambers
1777 Broadway
6 p.m.
The follow~ng are the m~nutes of the February 25, 2002 C~ry of Boulder Parks and Recreation
Advasory Board meenng (PRAB) A permanent set of these m~nutes and a tape record~ng
(mainta~ned for a period of 6 years) are retatned in Central Records (telephone
303-441-3043)
Board Present: Gwen Dooley, Chair, Ed von Bleichert, Vice Chair, Dave Wmmg,
Chazles Manlove, Pam Hoge, Susan Osbome, and Thomas Sanford
Staff Present: Jan Geden, Doug Hawthorne, Sazah DeSouza, Georgia Jackson,
Cate Bradley, Kate Bernhazdt, Julya Bndgewater, Ann Wichmann,
Lisa Bondi, Ten Olander and Bob Peck
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
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``"' The agenda was approved as submrtted
II. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
Citizen Participahon was opened
No one spoke.
Cirizen Participation was closed
III. CONSENT AGENDA
Mmutes of May 16, 2001
The minutes were approved as subrmtted
Mmutes of January 28, 2002
The mmutes were approved with changes.
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IV. MATTERS FROM THE DEPARTMENT ,w~
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Geden mformed the Boazd that the body of a drownmg vichm at Boulder Reservoir had
been recovered eazLer m the day Copies of the press release were made ava~lable for
Boazd members
A. Needs assessmendsurvey update
Presenter: Jan Geden, CPRP, Director of Parks and Recreat~on
Cate Bradley, Parks and Recreauon Planner
Chazlie Deans, Planners Ink
Blazse Rastello, Planners Ink
Bradley gave a bnef update on the survey bemg prepared by National Research
Center (NRC) and sa~d Board members would recerve a report and presentauon
by NRC at the Mazch PRAB meetmg
Deans gave the Boazd an update on the pro~ect schedule and achvities that have
occurred to date. He stated that the benchmark survey had gnne out to six
communities and added that Boazd members would hear the results of the survey
at the March PRAB meeung. Deans and Rastello gave a presentahon urihzmg
GIS apphcahon and mformation
There was discussion about discrepancies m census populat~on figures Deans ~
repl~ed that the zssue was sall under debate and saad that his database would be
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ad~usted accordingly once the matter was resolved
Board members and staff discussed the cntena for neighborhood parks and
pocket parks. Bradley informed the Board thai ne~ghborhood parks are a
minimum of five acres and pocket parks ure anyth~ng less than five acres
Deans mformed the Boazd that at the next PRAB meeting he would have
mappmg of five different park categones and their service areas, along w~th
analysis for facihues with the highest need Prel~mmary recommendahons
would be made based on the analysis
Hoge asked whether Deans would be lookmg at the appropnateness of the
service radms, as affected by population Deans repked in the affirmatzve and
sa~d that servace areas can be proporteonal to the dens~ry of the populatzon
Osbome suggested that Plannmg Department staff be mvrted to the Mazch
meehng to heaz the presentation Geden and Bradley repked that Planrang
Department staff would be tnvated Osbome also suggested mvitmg [staff from]
neazby commumties such as Longmont and Louisville
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,.. Manlove stated that he did not see Dakota Ridge Park on the undeveloped pazk
~,,, l~st Deans repked thar he would look into the matrer and make the necessary
changes.
V. MATTERS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
A Will Meyer dedication
Dooley stated that the purpose of the item was to propose dedicatmg [he
children's playhouse at Chautauqua m memory of Will Meyer and the
contnbutions he made to the Boulder community
Dooley stated that if the dedication were approved by the PRAB the item would
then need to be presented to the Chautauqua Board for the~r approval.
PRAB members asked that the dates of Will Meyer's birth and death be venfied
and conected to read 1941-2001
On a mouon by Dooley, seconded by Wmmg, the Pazks and Recreation Adv~sory
Boazd voted unanimously (7 - 0) to adopt this language [as presented m the
memo] and put it on a plaque on the playhouse [pendmg approval by the
Chautauqua Board]
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Sanford spoke about the NBRC renovation and problems associated w~th relocahng the
platform tenrus courts there He felt it was Ume for a NBRC update and Geden said that
she would like to have an update for the Boazd m Mazch or Apnl.
Sanford said Bill Boyes, Fac~hty and Asset Management (FAM) had asked h~m, to look
at a secunty system m a park buildmg Sanford sud he was concemed that there was no
pre-plamm~g, no bid and no proposal and stated that he sent Boyes a detailed memo
voicmg his concems Geden saed she would [ook ento the matter
VI. ITEMS FOR ACTION
A. Pubhc heanng and request for advisory recommendation on pnontizauon of
neighborhood and pocket park development.
Presenter Jan Geden, CPRP, Director of Pazks and Recreahon
Kate Bernhardt, Actmg Supenntendent of Parks Plamm~g and
Construcrion
Bernhazdt spoke bnefly about the elements of the pocket and ne~ghborhood pazk
pnontization matnx
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von Bleichert asked why BURA was mterested m the development of Smton ~'~R
Pazk. Bernhardt responded that at would be a very n~ce amenity to the BURA ~-
area ~f that park sate were developed Osborne added that the azea was pretty
derehct and an eyesore m need of attenhon
Manlove quesuoned the different ratmgs for the Holiday Dnve-m Theater park
site and the Dakota R~dge park site He felt that both sites were m the same
prox~m~ty of NoRh Boulder Commumty Pazk Bernhardt responded thai she
would look ~nto the matter
The public heanng was opened
Mark Bradley, 950 Waite Dnve, Boulder 80303, thanked the Board for their
support of the Hickory Pocket Park and Commumty Gazden He asked the
Boazd to make Hickory Pazk a pnonty and to consider providmg two picmc
tables, $1600 for matenals for a gazebo structure and $500 for a bulleun board
He added that volunteer labor would be used to put together the gazebo and
bulletm boazd
The public heazmg was closed.
Boazd Comments and Ouestions
• Boazd members expressed a des~re to see Sinton Pazk developed in 2002 ,n^
• Boazd members did not want all pocket park funds for 2002 to be used solely .,,..
for the development of Smton Pazk and requested that some of the funds be
used for small pro~ects throughout the commumty
• Boazd members expressed a desire to provide picmc tables and matenals for
a gazebo and bulleun board at Hickory Park, as requested dunng the public
heanng Geden replied that the request would be granted.
• Wmmg asked about fundmg flow for neighborhood and pocket pazk
development. Bernhardt repked that the fund~ng flow for neeghborhood and
pocker park deve[opment was approxamately $600K -$700K per year wath
~ncremental increases dependent on sales tax revenues.
Wmmg asked how area needs were determmed Bernhardt repl~ed that she
parttc~pated in the c[ass weth students who worked on the concept plan for
Sinton Park They held several neaghborhood meetangs and put together
surveys documentang the inforntatton they obtatned Bernhardt added that
there was very little interest an a play area for ch~ldren, but there was
tremendous ~nrerest ~n shade, satt~ng areas, p~cnic tables, a gathenng place
and an area for [emporary and permanent art
Boazd members suggested usmg Art-m-the Park funds and partnenng with
the Dairy and BURA to help fund development of Smton Park
von Bleichert stated that ~t would be useful to split out actual development
costs when retummg with a conceptual des~gn
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',~ On a mouon by Wmmg, seconded by Osborne, the Pazks and Recreation
Advisory Boazd voted unammously (7 - 0) to authonze a development concept
plan for Smton Pazk, keepmg m mmd the Boazd's expressed concerns and for
staff to present some ideas wrth altemauves
VII. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/INFORMATION
A. Recychng m Crty pazks
Presenters Doug Hawthome, CPRP, Parks Supenntendent
Kaza Dmhoffer, Envuonmental Affa~rs Department
Bob Peck, City Pazks Manager
Hawthorne gave a bnef history of recyclmg efforts m urban parks and provided
mformauon on how trash was currendy collected Hawthorne mformed the
Boazd of a pilot program to be implemented m summer of 2002 whereby
recycling srtes would be located m crty pazks
Board comments and questions
• Dooley suggested mstalhng signage that would read "I'his ~s your park Help
us keep ~t clean." Peck replied that enforcement was very difficult wuhout
signage, and indicated that stgns would be put ~n place
• Manlove spoke about illegal uash dumpmg and the need to find ways to
~ discourage it He suggested secunng dumpsters to prevent illegal trash
~ dumpmg
• Osborne spoke about the possibility of conversation s with the commumty
and gettmg neighborhood help with recyclmg efforts She stated that she felt
strongly about recychng m city parks, even ~f there were costs associated
with it
Dmhoffer mformed Boazd members on the costs of recycie contamers She also
spoke on the need for balance between convemence to park users and
mconvemence to the neighbors Dmhoffer expressed confidence that there were
ways to address collechon issues, neighborhood dumpmg issues and the desire to
recycle m parks
Dooley asked about the fine for illegal dumpmg and said she would hke to
see the ordmance enforced von BleicheR added that s~gnage would be
necessazy to make rt clear that it is illegal to dump pnvate trash m city pazk
dumpsters
von Bleichert stated that he was confident that the collecnon method could be
revised to make recychng work He hoped the success of the pilot program
would not be based on volume of trash collected, but more on the issues of
participation, contanunation, and positive commumty feedback
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• von Bleichert mqmred about revenue for recycled matenals D~nhoffer ~'"'"
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responded that currently there was no revenue from EcoCycle for recycled --~
materaals.
• Sanford spoke of successful recychng efforts he witnessed m Germany wh~le
on vacation recently He agreed with Dooley that ordmances agamst illegal
dumpmg should be enforced and violators should be fined. In add~tion,
SanFord said that whatever it takes, pazks should be kept clean
• Hoge expressed excitement over recychng efforts m crty pazks She spoke
about the importance of education when recychng efforts are first pu[ m
place Hoge said she hoped to see recychng contamers at every place there is
a trashcan She sud the goal should be to make recychng easier than
throwmg out trash
• Wmmg spoke about a plasric tube filled w~th recycled newspaper bags that
had been mstalled at Arapahoe Ridge Pazk. He said the bags were for dog
owners to use to pick after their dogs. Wmmg thought this was a great effort
m recychng that would save the cost of buying bags Hawthorne responded
that PVC p~pes for newspaper bags were be~ng installed in parks in an effort
to reduce costs He added that the goal was to phase out the use of
purchased pet m~tts and dzspensers over the next two years Peck added that
the idea came from the czry of Longmont
Manlove mentioned that a portion of his dog hcense fees were to be used for
dog-waste bags He suggested staff look mto the matter to see ~f funds were
avazlable to Pazks and Recreation. ~'"`4
Dooley sazd she would l~ke to pursue mcreasmg the fines for illegal dumpmg ~
with Crty Council.
von Bleichert asked that recycimg be looked at as a long-term plan
Hawthorne stated that staff would proceed wrth recychng test cases and repoR
back to the Board on results of the pilot program
The Boazd took a short break
Geden called the question
B 47`"/Jay/Kalicua Planmng Pro~ect
Presenters Jan Geden, CPRP, Director of Pazks and Recreation
Cate Bradley, Pazks and Recreahon Planner
Bradley stated that the purpose of this item was to provide Boazd members with
background mformation pnor to the Mazch 18 PRAB meetmg At that time the
Boazd will rev~ew conceptual altematives for development of the Jay Road, 47~'
Street, and Kalctua Avenue properties These conceptual altematives may
mclude mformation about possible potential park locations, either pnvate (such
as homeowner association) and/or addiuonal pubhc parkland Boazd comments
and recommendations on the report and conceptual plans would be conveyed to ,~
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~ Osbome said she was concerned about the impact of the soccer fields on the
neighborhoods Geden repl:ed that staff had already begun work~ng w~th
ne~ghborhood groups to identzfy ~ssues and to inform them of what would be
done ~n 2002 Osborne said she would e-ma~l her thoughts about the 2002 plan
to Ten Olander, Actmg Supenntendent of Recreation.
The possibihty of a small practice field outside the fencmg at Pleasant View
fields was brought up Olander mformed the Boazd and staff that there was no
available area outside the fencmg She added that the fencmg runs nght up to the
pazkmg lot.
Geden mformed the Board that the Plannmg Board packet would be sent to
PRAB members as soon as rt was available.
C Valmont City Park - Current Issues Schematic and Plamm~g
Presenters Jan Geden, CPRP, Duector of Pazks and Recreahon
Teresa Gnlls, Manager of Valmont City Pazk Management and
Plamm~g Assistance Team (M-PAT)
Gnlls mtroduced Jill Krantz to Board members and said that Krantz, an assistant
consultant with GreenPlay, had beeo workmg on the Valmont City Pazk pro~ect
for several months
~ Gnlls stated that the purpose of this i[em was to idenhfy the process for
addressmg cunent plannmg issues for Valmont Crty Park A schemauc diagram
was created to identify those issues Board members were asked to identify any
other currently known issues or concerns and to convey them to Gnlls by
March 4
Gnlls mformed the Board that a charrette had been planned for Apn16, from 9
a m. to 1 p m. at the George Reynolds Branch Library
Gnlls said the Valmont City Park web site had been enhanced, expanded and
moved to the City's web site At the Parks and Recreation page there is a lmk to
the web site for Valmont City Park
Manlove spoke about keepmg in mmd the pomt at wtuch changes to the
approved concept plan become an amended or redesigned plan If that were to
happen, then a more mclusive pubhc process might be needed - one that would
mclude extensive pubhc outreach Manlove said his concern was `what is the
appropnate process for the level of re-thmkmg that the Boazd is headmg
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Hoge asked about follow-up on von Bleichert's request to place a b~ke rack at the
~'"~ pazlang lot at Valmont city Park Bernhardt repleed that sance the park~ng lot
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was temporary, the bike rack would have to be removed at some poant Geden ^s~
sa~d a bzke rack would be ~nstalled temporar~ly ~-
Hoge asked about follow-up from City Council's meetmg on praine dogs
Ceden said that there was st~ll not enough definitive anformation for Ciry Counctl
to make a recommendatton Fo[[ow-up has been to conttnue w~th analysis and
data co[lection that wa[1 help Councd make some good deciswns m the future
Hoge asked whether there was a hmehne for this Geden sa~d she did not believe
there was a ttmeline establ~shed but believed it would be over the course of the
nextseason.
VIII. F[TTURE BOARD ITEMS AND TOURS
As the May 27 PRAB meehng falls on Memonal Day Board members agreed to
reschedule the meetmg to May 20. Osborne said she would not be able to attend a
meetmg on that date
IX. NEXT BOARD MEETING:
Monday, March 18, 2002 - at EBCC
X. ADJOURN
The meehng ad~ourned at 9 40 p m
APPROVED BY PARKS AND
RECR~ATION ADVIS RY BOI RD~
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Ed von Bleichert
Boazd Chair
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Georgia J kson ,~
Recordmg Secretary
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