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~ City of Boulder
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
Minutes
January 28, 2002
City Council Chambers
1777 Broadway
6 p.m.
The follow~ng are the minutes of the January 28, 2002 C~ry of Boulder Parks and Recreation
Advasory Board meetang (PRAB). A permanent set of these m~nutes and a tape record~ng
(maantained for a period of 6 years) are reta~ned ~n Central Records (telephone
303-441-3043)
Board Present: Gwen Dooley, Chau, Ed von Bleichert, Vice Chair, Dave Wmmg,
Charles Manlove, Pam Hoge, and Susan Osborne
Board Absent: Thomas Sanford
Staff Present: Jan Geden, Doug Hawthorne, Sarah DeSouza, Georg~a Jackson,
Cate Bradley, Kate Bemhazdt, Julya Bndgewater, Ann Wichmann,
L~sa Bondi, and Ten Olander
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~' I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved as submitted
II. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
Citizen Panc~ipahon was opeued.
William McDamel, PO Box 4216, Boulder, CO 80306, spoke about the mcreased daily
fees for use of recreation centers [reduced rate fees]. McDaniel said that raismg the cost
from $1 25 to $2 50 was a hazdship for him as he receives only disabilrty mcome
Michael Michener, 4373 30`~' Street, Boulder 80302, spoke about the azea east of 47`h
Street, south of Fourmile Creek and west of the access to [he Diagonal H~ghway
[McKenzie Junchon site~ He suggested usmg the land to build high quality baseball
fields compazable to the supenor quality of soccer fields at Pleasant View
Citizen Pamcipation was closed.
III. CONSENT AGENDA
,er+ Mmutes of November 26, 2001
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The ccunutes were approved as submitted
Manlove amved at 6.17 p m
IV. MATTERS FROM THE DEPARTMENT
A Needs assessment update
Presenter Charhe Deans, Consultant with Planners Ink
Jan Geden, CPRP, Director of Pazks and Recreation
Cate Bradley, Parks and Recreahon Planner
Deans gave the Board an update on the pro~ect schedule and activit~es that had
occurred to date He mformed the Boazd that the ma~onty of the commumty
outreach process had been recently comple[ed which mcluded mterviews, focus
groups and a community workshop Deans sa~d he was pleased with the results
and level of participation and added that the Board would be given a summary of
comments at the next PRAB meeUng
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Deans said that Benchmark Analysis would be deternuned from surveys taken of
the Cities of Eugene, Oregon; Tempe, Anzona, Berkely, California and the
Colorado crties of Westnunster, Littleton and Fort Colhns. Deans asked PRAB
members for any specific mformatioo they would ]ike to have mcluded m the ~
survey quest~ons Osborne sa~d she wouid be very ~nierested in asking other ,,,,,, ~
communmes how they fund their sports facikt:es Deans asked Board members
to prov~de feedback by the follow~ng Monday
Deans said he will come back to the Board w~th presentauons dunng the regular
meetmgs m February, Mazch, Apnl and May
Hoge asked how this process fits m with the Master Plan Process Bradley
responded that this was the core tnformat~on needed in order to move forward
with a Rev~sed Master Plan Geden added that movang forward was dependent
on the nature of the tnformatton recetved and how that tnformatton compares to
the Master Plan.
B Praine dog update
Presenter Ann Wichmann, Envuonmental Resources Manager
Wichmann mformed the Boazd that the bamer fencmg at Tom Watson Pazk was
already completed on two sides of the ball field and that staff was workmg w~th
Open Space and Mountazn Pazks (OSMP) staff to relocate praine dogs pnor to
the Mazch 1 deadhne. W~chmann said the bamer fencmg along Goose Creek m
Valmont City Pazk should be fimshed by the end of the week and mformed the
Boazd that staff was morutonng pra~ne dog activity on the south side of Pleasant
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~ Hoge asked whether staff had looked mto rust proof matenal for the underground
fencmg at Tom Watson Pazk W~chmann responded that the contractor had
confirmed that the very best matenal was beang used for the underground
fenc~ng
Hoge expressed concem that praine dogs were to be moved dunng the month of
Februazy Wichmann saad thar it was recommended that pratr~e dogs be
relocated between June 1 and October 1 but added that praarie dog relocat~on is
a[lowed up until March 1, weather permittzng
Hoge asked about the next steps followmg the meehng with City Council
Geden responded that next steps had not been addressed and added that she
would report back to the Board after discusszng the matter w~th Chr~st~ne
Andersen, Depury Caty Manager for Enveronmental Servzces
von Ble~chert asked for details on fimshmg the bamer on Goose Creek trail
W~chmann sa~d that the fenc~ng had been stopped at mtd pomt wh~le prazr~e dogs
were beang relocated, but was now betng completed from the mtd po~nt ro the
bzke path, to cannect wrth the banier that goes to the northeast
C Update on Valmont City Pazk (VCP) wildlife comdor
[Tbis item was considered at the same hme as item V-A]
'~ Presenter Ann W~chmann, Environmentai Resources Manager
Wichmann mformed the Board that the backbone wildlife plantmg was st~ll on
track for this spnng She sa~d she was workmg with Forestry personnel to plant
lazge trees and with Gnlls [VCP M-PAT] for a volunteer pro~ect to help wrth
other plantmg
Dooley asked when the plantmg would occur Wichmann responded that ~t
would probably be ~n Apnl Dooley mquired whether Steve Jones was mvolved
m the process W~chmann repl~ed that the plant~ngs were per Jones'
recommendakons
Manlove asked about fundmg W~chmann replied that $80K was avatlable from
lottery funds for habttat restorat~on pro~ecrs at both Valmont Ciry Park and the
Boulder Reservo~r
Hoge asked about spnnklmg wood debns as a praine dog bamer W~chmann
replied that ~t had not been done yet as staff was monitor~ng the satuataon to see
where the prairae dogs are movang
D Update on Valmont City Park (VCP) partnership process
,••. Presenter Teresa Gnlls, Manager, VCP M-PAT (Management and Plannmg
.~, Assistance Team)
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Gnlls provided the Board with an overview of the cunent status of potential ..
partners mterested m a partnership for Valmont City Park and next steps for the
corrung months.
von Bleichert asked what mterest EcoCycle has with the ski tra~l Gnlls
responded she wasn't sure, as they had not submatted a wr~tten proposal. She
added thar some EcoCycle employees were av~d skaers and that dunng the p~lot
skt tra~l pro~ect, benches made of recycled marenals had been dohated
Dooley mquired about the Denver Semor Men's Basebail League and whether
they wanted use of the baseball fields Gr~lls responded that ~t was unclear at
this time, as that group had not submitted a wratten proposal She added that
some groups were interested ~n programmang partnershaps and were working
w~th groups that have submitted proposals, to help obtam funding Gnlls sa~d
she anhctpated that a Denver group would get lower pnonry, adding rhat the
group was wtlling to come forward w~th some funds or resources
Osborne expressed contmued concern over the number of ball fields shown on
the master plan She urged the Boazd to exercise caution and not make any
commitments before knowmg the results of the needs assessment. Osborne said
the ball fields [ake up so much land on the south side that if there are other needs
that have to be met, some of the six ball fields may have to be ehmmated ~
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Hoge asked if the partnership process was broader than Valmont C~ty Park
Gnlls responded that at presenr, the focus was on Valmont, but thar ~deas for
other areas of operat~on were shared w~th Management Team as they came up.
Hoge suggested that the need for ball fields could be looked at from a citywide
standpomt and not~ust at Valmont Dooley concurred with Hoge
Gnlls renunded the Boazd that the fields at Valmont were to be lighted fields that
could not be accommodated m other neighborhood locations
E Parks Plannmg and ConstrucUOn pro~ect update and follow-up to questions
rused at 11/26/Ol PRAB meehng
Presenter Kate Bernhazdt, Actmg Supenntendent of Pazks Plamm~g and
Construction
Bemhardt gave Boazd members copies of an article from landscape architecture
magazme. The article featured Foothills Commumty Pazk m Boulder (and a pazk
located m Greenwood Village, CO) to demonstrate how art can be mcorporated
mto pazk design
Bemhardt referred to [he mformauon mcluded m the packet and asked Board
members for their comments or questions
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~„ Hoge asked how the cntena for commumty gazdens could be made more
flexibie Bernhardt responded that on a case-by-case bas~s, dunng public
W process, ne:ghborhoods couZd be made aware that community gardens are an
opnon for any particular park Hawthorne added that Growing Gardens is
proactrve ~n reaching the communzry and Manlove suggested Hoge speak w:th
Ramona Clark, Darector of Grow~ng Gardens
von Bleichert said he would srill hke to see bike racks at the parkmg lot m
Valmont City Park Bernhardt responded that the parktng lot was temporary
and if b~ke racks were tnstalled they would have to be removed at a later date
Bernhazdt spoke about the three options for the potential purchase of the
Mountam Ocean site She mtroduced the owner of Mountam Ocean, Mr Tom
Ben~amm, to the Board Mr. Ben~anun bnefly addressed the Board, expressmg
thanks and appreciation for staff's efforts to work with him to find a resoluhon
Bemhazdt sazd that staff had been given the direchon to purchase the Mountam
Ocean property and informed the Board that staff was prepanng to move forward
with apprazsals Bernhazdt said staff wanted to make sure the Board was
comfortable with staff movmg forward with the process
V. MATTERS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
'`^' A Wildlife comdor discussion
von Bleichert suggested lookmg at issues as a whole and not mdependently He
suggested a charrette-style study session, sim~lar to the study session held at
NCAR, to get all issues on the table
Manlove agreed that rt was a good idea but did not thmk u needed to be done
nght away Manlove said he could see domg that after the needs assessment and
as the Board proceeds w~th the Master Plan
Osbome suggested waiting until results of the needs assessment are known
Hoge said tt would be helpful to have a visual, map or flow chart of all the
connective discussions, with a framework connechng the mformat~on Geden
responded that staff could put together a v~sual map of all the issues and
quesnons under cons~derauon and added that a plann~ng charrette mzght be the
nexr logzcal step
Bemhazdt said she had heard two tlungs.
1 The Boazd would like to see ~ssues charted m a graphic way, showmg
impacts
2 The Board would ]ike to make plans for a chanette
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Gnlls spoke about workmg with staff on both the above ,w~.
B Memorandum from Susan Osbome regardmg plaque at Lovers' Hill pazk ~
Osborne stated tha[ after the tour of Lovers' Hill Pazk she thought it wouid be
mce to have a small plaque, wuh a quote from Fredenck Law Olmstead, set m
the flagstone. Osbome confirmed with Cate Bradley, Pazks and Recreation
Planner, that there were funds left from development of [he pazk that could cover
the nommal cost of the plaque Osborne would work with Bradley on the
placement of the plaque if other Board members were m agreement with the
idea Board members agreed tha[ Osbome should proceed with the idea
Wmmg spoke about how Elks Pazk does not get much use and asked why it was
not hsted m the brochure. Hawthorne responded that the pubkc is not
encouraged to use the park because of the poor conduion of the shelter and the
fact that a capital pro~ect would be required to br~ng the shelter up to standards
Hawthorne added that a long-term use for the park has not yet been tdentafied
Osborne suggested usmg the park for soccer prachce Hawthorne repked that
the Elks property does not have zrragated and ma~nta~ned turf and that a cap~tal
pro~ect would be requ~red to do that
Wmmg strongly suggested maintammg the pohcy of Crtizen Participation at the ~
very begmmng of the meetmg. He did not want to set a precedent that people W,
can say they have to leave and then speak on Action Items dunng Citizen
Participauon Boazd members and staff agreed to move Action Items to begm at
645pm
The March 25, 2002, PRAB meeung was rescheduled to Mazch 18, 2002.
Manlove asked what the February 5 meetmg was about Staff repl:ed that ~t was
for the BoulderArts Commission and the PRAB to se[ect arhsts to move forward
wath proposals for sculptures for the lobby of the renovated NBRC
Wmmg asked for such meetmgs to be mcluded m Future Boazd Items
VI. ITEMS FOR ACTION
A Pubhc heanng and consideration of a recommendahon to Crty Council on
amendmg the Boulder Revised Code to perm~t the use of electnc-assisted, pedal-
powered bicycles on off-street bicycle facilities
Presenter: Marni Ratzel, Bicycle & Pedestnan Transportation Planner
Ratzel provided the Boazd with mformauon on the background and use of
electnc-assist bicycles and efforts to amend the Boulder Revised Code to pemut
use of electnc-assist bicycles on off-street bicycle faciliues '""~`
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~ The pubhc heanng was opened
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Len Barron, 601 Canyon Blvd, Boulder 80302, spoke about the health benefits of
walkmg and said that fast movmg bicycles make wallung along the path unsafe
and uncomfortable for pedestnans He asked the Board to say no to electnc-
assist bicycles on paths.
Ralph Sorenson, 603 Spruce Street, Bouider 80302, ceded h~s hme to Chazlotte
Sorenson
Charlotte Sorenson, 603 Spruce Street, Boulder 80302, represennng a group of
concerned citizens known as People Power on the Paths, spoke aga~nst the
Transportauon Advisory Boazd's recommendation to City Council that would
amend the Boulder Revised Code to allow electnc-assist bicycles on Boulder's
sidewalks and bicycle paths. Sorenson said that many of Boulder's b~ke paths
are narrower than the 10-foot wide federal recommendation for a mult~ use path
She expressed concems about noise, safety on already crowded bike paths and
lack of enforceabihty She urged the PRAB to oppose the use of electnc-assist
bicycles on Boulder's paths.
Laune Watkms, 2000 Poplaz, Boulder 80304, sazd she uses her electnc-assist
bicycle to commute to and from work She said the issue to be addressed was
'`~' the speed with which all bicycles travel on the paths, regazdless of whether they
° are pedal-powered or electric-assisted
Kann Aarons, 715 Arapahoe Avenue, Boulder 80302, spoke about how much
she en~oys Boulder's bike paths She said she did not want to see the bike paths
become commuter routes and expressed concern over how Boulder might be
changed ~f that were to happen.
Dave Bnghton, 4925 Franklm Dnve. Boulder 80301, said he ndes a motonzed
tncycle because of h~s disabilities and urged the Board to allow electnc-assist
ticycles on Boulder's paths
Charles Gray, 670 Logan , Boulder 80302, said he uses a bicycle to commute to
and from work and spoke agamst the use of electnc-assist bicycles on Boulder's
paths He urged the PRAB to keep paths for pedestnan and foot-powered
b~cycle use
Bame Kerr, 4ll Spruce Street, Boulder 80302, spoke about the liabilrty of a
public entity with regazd to conflicts on multi-use paths. He suggested the Boazd
consider the pubhc safety factor and not allow electnc-assist bicycles on paths.
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Cmdy Carlisle, 4ll Spruce Street, Boulder 80302, sazd bike lanes are the ^~-,
appropnate place for electnc-assist bicycles, and not on the paths Cazlisle urged
the PRAB to not allow motonzed bikes on the paths
Dick Stebbms, 502 Highland Avenue, Boulder 8030_, said he did not beheve the
paths were mtended to become a motorway He stated that Boulder's efforts to
improve the system should be focused on developing effective means of speed
control and pedestnan behavior, rather than mtroducmg a new category of
vehiculaz traffic
Alison Richards, 470 Uruvers~ty Avenue, Boulder 80302, a member of the
Transportauon Advisory Board [TAB), said TAB felt that the electnc-assist
bicycle would give bicyclists more options Richards spoke about how the paths
aze much more accommodatmg than bike lanes dunng penods of bad weather
when b~ke lanes aze full of snow or debns. Richazds spoke m favor of the tnal
penod for electnc-ass~st bicycles and asked the PRAB not to prohibit electnc-
assist b~cycles based on speculahon
Alan Streater, 2830 Dover Dnve, Boulder 80305, expressed concern that it
would be difficult to rescmd the ordmance if usmg elecmc-assist bicycles
becomes a problem and also spoke about the difficulties of enforcement
Janet Streater, 2830 Dover Dnve, Boulder 80305, strongly urged the PRAB not ~
to allow use of motonzed bicycles on paths She suggested a compromise that .,,,,
would allow mdividual permitted use of electnc-assist bicycles only for medical
necessity
Gerhard Koerf, 700 Kalnua, Boulder 80304, said he did not beheve that a large
percentage of people would benefit from usmg electnc-assist bicycles Koerf
said he beheves a lazge percentage of people would be disadvantaged as a result
of allowmg electnc-assist bicycles on Boulder's paths
Scott Allman, 1720 Bluff Street, Boulder 80304 said he uses h~s elecmc-assist
b~cycle to commute to work and said that bike paths are much safer to use than
bike lanes He asked the PRAB to allow him the safety of ndmg bike paths and
to support the recommendation to allow electnc-assist b~cycles on paths
Landon H~lliard, PO Box 1374, Boulder 80306, spoke in suppoR of the
ordmance to allow electnc-assist bicycles on the mulu-use paths He believes
electnc-assist bicycles can be used as an altemative to dnvmg cazs and can be a
great commuung tool
Steve Pnem, 140 S 315` Street, Boulder, 8030_, spoke m support of usmg
e-bikes on bike paths and the Boulder b~cycle system. He spoke of a fnend who
uses an electnc-assist bicycle to extend his range of transportation and how that
fnend ndes and operates his e-bike responsibly ~
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'^ reviousl had ceded his
Ralph Sorenson, 605 Spruce Street, Boulder 80302, [p y
~ hme to Charlotte Sorenson, asked to speak for one mmute, and the Board granted
his request] Sorenson spoke about numerous paths and bndges that already did
not meet the federally recommended width and spoke agamst addmg another use
to already crowded paths
The publ~c heanng was closed
Board Comments and Ouestions
• Osborne mquired about use of electnc wheelchairs and motonzed tncycles
on paths. Ratzel responded that electr~c wheelchairs are permitted, but she
thought motor~zed tncycles m~ght not be allowed
• Osborne asked whether there was mappmg that mdicated widths of all the
paths m the system Ratzel responded that there was no ~nventory of the
widths of paths for the entire system
. von Bleichert asked if the federal gmdelmes aze 10 foot mmimum with 12
foot recommended, when is an 8-foot path acceptable ~ Ratzel responded
that ~t would be acceptable in a low volume res~dentaal communiry knk. She
added that terrain, such as an upward or downward slope, ~s also taken tnto
account when determining w~dth of a path
~ Jim Turner, President and founder of Opti Bike, addressed the PRAB and
answered questions about electnc-assist bicycles
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PRAB members said it was important to know whether electric-assist bikes are
allowed on bike paths when the electnc motor is not engaged A[kson R~chards,
Transportaaon Advisory Board (TAB) member, responded tha[ accord~ng to
Walt Fncke, Ciry Attorney, electr~c-assast bzcycles, used ~n pedal mode, were
permatzed on the paths.
PRAB members mdicated.
• support for allowmg persons with d~sabiliues to use electno-assist vehicles
on paths
• that exisung problems with pedestnans and bicycl~sts ought to be addressed
before addmg another use on the paths
• that use of electnc-assist bicycles was premature - needmg more
mvestigation/study
• future possibilrty of very limited use of electnc-assist bicycles - only for very
specific areas, which would require study to determme areas razely used by
pedestnans and where it would be logical to get bicyclists off the street
On a motion by Dooley, seconded by von Bleichert, the Parks and Recreation
Advisory Board voted unammously (6-0 with Sanford absent) to deny a
~ recommendation to City Council to amend the Boulder Revised Code to permrt
the use of electnc-ass~sted pedal powered b~cycles on all off-street bicycle
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facilities, but to clearly state that citizens with disabilrties have access to all of e+n,
our City facilities
The Boazd took a short break
At 9 33 p m Geden called the question. Boazd members felt there was time to
complete the agenda items and at this time went back to cons~der Item IV-E
VII. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/INFORMATION
VIII. FUTURE BOARD ITEMS AND TODRS
IX. NEXT BOARD MEETING:
Monday, February 25, 2002
X. ADJOURN
The meehng ad~ourned at 10:45 p m
APPROVED BY PARKS AND
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Ed von Bleichert
Board Chair
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