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Signed Minutes - 4/02/2001~IP City of Boulder ,,~ Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Minutes Flatirons Golf Course 5706 Arapahoe Apri12, 2001 6:00 p.m. The followtng are the mtnutes of the Aprtl 2, 2001 Ciry of Boulder Parks and Recreat~on Adv~sory Board meetang A permanent set of these rraanutes and a tape recordang (maintaaned for a penod of 6 years) are retazned :n Central Records (telephone 441-3043) Board Present: Gwen Dooley, V~ce Chau, Chazles Manlove, Susan Osbome, Dave Wmmg, Edwazd von Bleichert, Pam Hoge, and Will Meyer, Chur, amved at640pm Board Absent: Thomas Sanford Staff Present: Doug Hawthorne, Lmda Kotowski, Chnshne Andersen, Sarah DeSouza, Georgia Jackson, Kate Bernhazdt, Russ Dnskill, Ruta O'Connor, Al ~-- Quiller, Ron Crescenhm, Julya Bndgewater I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA The agenda was approved with changes The election of officers was postponed until after Meyer amved II. ELECTION OF OFFICERS Meyer, deparhng Chair, appointed DeSouza, Assistant to the Director, as achng Chau to preside over the elechon of PRAB officers Meyer then left the Board DeSouza opened nominations for Cha~r Osborne nommated Dooley As there were no other nommations DeSouza announced Dooley as the new Chair DeSouza opened nommations for Vice Chau Hoge nommated von Bleichert. `. ,. As there were no other nommauons DeSouza announced von Bleichert as Vice Chair and ,~,,, tumed the meedng over to the new Chair III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES February 26, 2001 Mmutes were approved as submitted IV CITIZEN PARTICIPATION Pnor to Citizen Participation, Chnstme Andersen, Deputy City Manager for environmental services, addressed the aud~ence. Andersen stated that the time for receivmg proposals for Valmont City Park had ended and that letters would be gomg out to all who had submitted proposals The letter would advise them that a final review of the plans for Valmont City Park would be addressed at a ~omt meetmg wIIh City Council and the PRAB on May 8 Processmg of proposals would occur after the May 8 Study Session Andersen addressed the discussion item on the North Boulder Recrearion Center and said that the report was a status report and not a decision pomt She added that staff was attemphng to refine the cost estimates and determme the opportumues available to r""' contmue wrth the full scope of the pro~ect Andersen further stated that no scope changes `~- or possible ophons would be presented at this meetmg for the Boazd to consider As so many wished to speak, Dooley announced that each person would be allowed two mmutes to speak Cihzen Participahon was opened Ed Riedel, 150 South 3151 Street, Boulder 80305, pres~dent of Boulder Commumty Velodrome, asked the Boazd to support the proposed velodrome as an altemahve mode of transportat~on and said h~s organization hoped to receive a letter of interest. Bethna Younge, 1574 North Street, Boulder 8030_, expressed support for the Boulder Commumty Velodrome and felt it would be a benefit to the commumty Paul Martm, 3336 L.oyola Ct, Boulder 80305, a member of the US Paza-Olympic Cyclmg team, expressed support for the Boulder Commumty Velodrome (BCV) and said that cyclmg is a disabled-fnendly sport Kevm Lamar, 7276 Island Green Dnve, Boulder 80301, expressed support for the BCV and said he was helpmg to raise necessary funds. He added that the velodrome would offer another venue for kids to participate m a sport with cardiovasculaz benefits. ~ PRAB Meetmg 4/2/Ol - Page 2 ,~-- M~ke Foote, 2816 Cordry Ct, Boulder 80303, a board member of BCV, stated his support ~.. for the velodrome and said he hoped to receive a letter of mterest m the near future Mike Eubank, 1727 Bluebell Ave, Boulder 80302, Teen Duector at the YMCA, expressed support for the BCV He added that it would be beneficial to have adults mentonng to teens through ~umor racmg Art Schwadron, 1340 Cherryvale Rd, Boulder 80303, stated his support for the BCV and would like to see children have the opportumty to learn cyclmg m a safe environment Steve Trowbndge, 5280 Centenmal Trazl, Boulder 80303, expressed support for the NBRC gymnasucs center expansion He stated that gymnashcs ~s the most populaz program offered and sud that existmg facil~ties are madequate Jeff Bennett, 3015 10t6 Street, Boulder 80304, spoke m support of expanded gymnastics and pool facihdes as part of the NBRC renovation He asked the Board to build the recreation center to meet the needs of the commumty for the next thirty years Jane Scott, 750 Utica Ave, Boulder 80304, a Boulder Aquahc Masters (BAM) swim coach, spoke m support of an 8-lane pool for the NBRC renovation She addressed the ~ssues of crowded conditions and lack of lanes to accommodate all those who wish to use the pools -° Larry Thurston, 112 Manhattan Dr, Boulder 80303, expressed support for the gymnastics expans~on and spoke about the posit~ve aspects the gymnastics program offers for youth. Jan Klembord, 8756 Streamcrest Dr, Boulder 80302, spoke m support of the gymnastics expansion at the NBRC She added that many more children want to participate m the program but aze unable to because of hrruted space ChnsUna Colucci, 4905 Dakota, Boulder 80304, stated that over 200 kids are already on the wart Lst for gymnashcs and urged the Board to support the gymnasUcs center expansion She also sw~ms and would like to see eight lanes at the NBRC Jon Goodman, 82 Mmeola Ct, Boulder 80303, stated that there is only one gymnastics center for all of Boulder and urged the Boazd to support the expansion of the gymnastics center at NBRC He also expressed support for swimmmg and asked the Board to cons~der utilization percentages when making their decision T~m Kane, 293 Broken Fence Rd, Boulder 80302, stated that he has had three children go through the gymnastics program and urged the PRAB to make the gymnashc center expans~on a high pnonty ~, ~ PRAB Meenng 4/2/Ol - Page 3 ~ Paul S~egler, 140 S. 33rd Street, Boulder 80305, said that cunently there is no designated facihty or room for yoga and added that it would be a worthwhile thmg to mclude m the NBRC remodel Page Pulvar, 2820 Dover Dnve, Boulder 80305, thanked the Boazd for the skatepark but expressed concern that rt was not a wholesome environment for young children as she had seen older kids swearmg, smokmg and not using protective gear She has visited other Colorado skateparks (Aspen and Silverthorne) and has ideas for rules at the skatepazk Jeannette Weisskopf, 4869 Kmgs Ridge Blvd, Boulder 8030_, said yoga is mcreasmgly populaz and contmually has a wart hst. She added that yoga is beneficial for people of all ages Elise Berlm, 3595 Silver Plume Ct, Boulder 8030_, spoke about the populanty of yoga. She said there is always a waitmg hst, classes are crowded and facilities aze meager. She asked the Board to consider yoga m the renovahon plans for North Ann Furstenberg 370 S. Lazk Avenue, Louisville 80027, spoke about the absence of superv~sion at the skatepark She said there is no accountability for truancy, sweanng, and lack of respect and asked that money be allocated for superv~sion at the skatepazk ~""' Dale Stehna, 1953 Poplaz Lane, Boulder 80304, expressed support for the velodrome He `'~ stated that the populanty of Boulder's trazls creates safety issues between bicychsts and pedestnans He added that the velodrome would provide a fun and safe activity for youth. Mike Connelly, 771 N Cedar Brook, Boulder 80304, spoke m support of yoga facil~hes at North. He beheves that yoga ~s a worthwhile actrvrty to promote Curt Colby, 4916 Dakota Blvd, Boulder 80304, a BAM coach and the head sw~m coach at Boulder High, spoke m support of the mcreased pool size at North He spoke about the lack of swim facilities in Boulder Dan DuBois, 555 Yuma Circle, Boulder 80303, spoke m support of the gymnastics expansion at NBRC He spoke highly of the program and the benefits of the program for youth Niki Chomza, 1197 Ravenwood, Boulder 80301, a member of the Boulder Flyers gymnashcs team, said that participants m the gymnastics program outnumber the swimmers, dancers and basketball players, and asked why those participants get a new pool, a new gym and a bigger dance room and they [gymnasrics part~cipants] don't get anythmg r~ PRAB Meenng 4/2/Ol - Page 4 r,,.. Roxy Nicholson, 865 36`" Street, Boulder 80303, a member of the Boulder Flyers, spoke ~,,, about the crowded conditions m the gym She sazd she would appreciate the addit~on at North so that equipment m storage could be used and also to make the gym less dangerous. Enca Allbntton, [no address given], a member of the Boulder Flyers, spoke about how much gymnastics has meant to her and expressed support for expandmg the gym Chelsea Dav~es-Lechner, 4480 HasUngs Dnve, Boulder 80305, a member of the Boulder Flyers, spoke m support of expandmg the gym at North Rachel Kennedy, 3326 16`" SVeet, Boulder 80304, a ten-yeaz participant m the gymnastics program, spoke about the need for expandmg the gymnastics facihty at North She added that 600 kids are on the wait hst Dawn Taylor, 900 Crescent, Boulder 80303, spoke about the positive aspects of the gymnasGcs program and the need for expansion Kevm Edwazds, 1420 Moss Rock Place, Boulder 80304, spoke m favor of the pool and encouraged the Boazd to "do it right or not do it at all" He said that Boulder already has about eight bad to mediocre pools and asked the Boazd to build one good one. ~'"` Sue Van Doren, 1400 Oak Circle, Boulder 8030_, spoke highly of the gymnastics `w- program and coactung staff She addressed the issue of crowdmg and the need for more space Jon Bookout, 9219 Galway Rd, Boulder 80303, a former participant, spoke about the posrtive aspects of the gymnast~cs program As a gymnastics coach, Bookout expressed frustrahon at the lack of space and encouraged the Board to support the gymnastics expans~on Peter Judkms, 2740 Iliff Street, Boulder 80305, expressed support for the gymnastics program and sa~d the current facilrty is madequate to meet the current need m Boulder He voiced support for the gymnastics expansion John Clyne, 2625 Kohler Dnve, Boulder 80305, spoke m support of the velodrome. He stated that Boulder cunently has no facility for bicycling and added that the pro~ect would be fully funded by the velodrome supporters Elhott Evans, 1400 Oak Circle, Boulder 80304, spoke highly of the gymnastics program and expressed support for the gymnasucs expansion Crtizen Participation was closed r~ ~..a. PRAB Meetmg 4/2/01 - Page 5 The Board took a five minute break ~,." ~` IV ITEMS FROM THE DEPARTMENT Manlove asked for clarificahon of the February 2001 date for the Wonderland Creek Channel at Valmont Crty Pazk as mdicated on page 5 of the Parks Plamm~g and Construction Pro~ects Update. Bernhardt, Actang Superzntendent of Parks Plannang and Constructaon, responded that at was an error and that the pro~ect as scheduled for completion in February 2002 Manlove asked about the activity at Spruce Pool Kotowska responded that the pro~ect is gaang well and the pool should be open on schedule Hoge stated that she was surprised by all the activity at Valmont City Pazk and said she thought that constructron was to be kept to a mmimum until after it was determmed whether or not there was an achve coyote den Hoge also was concerned that there was a wood chippmg machme nearby as they aze so loud Andersen said she had not heard whether or not there es an actave coyote den and whether there have been coyoie sightings Bernhardt saad ~t was her understand~ng that the construct~on notse would encourage the coyotes to choose another den and that she would talk to Wzchmann about observataons of actevety wath the den Bernhardt added that she could look cnto reloca[mg the wood chzppeng machtne further away .~ ~,,,, Andersen asked the Boazd members if they were available the mornmg of May 5 to have a retreat All Board members said they would be able to attend a retreat on May 5 VI. ITEMS FROM BOARD MEMBERS Hoge said her sister uses the dog pazk at Valmont City Pazk and sud the azea has turned to mud Hoge asked if it was possible to fence off part of the area on a rotation schedule to allow the grass to reestablish Hawthorne said he cou[d look anto it but saad that the turf ~s not irngated He added that the same problem exists at East whach as why arrigated bluegrass is used in permanent dog parks, as at holds up better Hawthorne wtll meet with the dog park roundtable next week and sa~d he w~ll br~ng the matter before them Dooley asked for the date and locakon of the meetang Hawthorne responded that the meetang would be held Apnl 10 at 5 p m an the Ins Center Wimng expressed concern over the speaker's comments about the skatepazk Kotowsk~ responded that the skatepark committee will try to meet next week She added that the polace and the fire department have been asked for addzteonal help wath the ma[ter Hawthorne said that morion sensor securiry hghtmg is bemg considered as kids have been seen at the skatepazk after dusk ~ ~ PRAB Meeung 4Y2/Ol - Page 6 Hoge asked if the department has a skate program. Kotowski responded that the Cety has ~ partnered w~th the YMCA to hold cliracs, classes and events Hoge sazd her daughters aze afraid to use the skatepazk and Kotowslu sazd that on a recent visit to the skatepark she saw only one girl skahng. Andersen saul tt would be interestang to see ~f other communataes have expenenced the gender splat Andersen added that af young garls are uncomfortable usang the skatepark, that ts an issue that needs to be taken senously and addressed Osbome said she and Manlove attended the ice skatmg proposal mee[mg and expressed amazement at the well thought out proposals bemg prepazed for considerahon She said attending the meetmg was a better way to understand what's gomg on and encouraged other Boazd members to attend these mformative meetmgs m the future VII. ITEMS FOR ACTION A. Public hearing and consideration of a motion to approve a parkland disposition resulting from a proposed lot line adjustment consisting of 0.0010 acre (435 Sq Ft) located along the east side of Fortune Park, at the Northeast corner of 4`" Street and Canyon Boulevard (1920 4"' Street) Presenter: Russ Driskill, Project Manager Dnskill gave an overview of events leadmg to the proposed lot lme ad~ustment along the east side of Fortune Park. The Pubhc Heanng was opened No one spoke. The Pubhc Heanng was closed. On a motion by Wmmg, seconded by Osborne, the Parks and Recreat~on Advisory Board voted unanimously (6-0 with one member absent) to adopt the staff recommendarion to allow a disposition of parkland, resultmg from a proposed lot line ad~ustment, consistmg of 0.010 acre (435 Sq Ft ) located along the east side of Fortune Pazk, at the northeast corner of 4th Street and Canyon Blvd (1920 4'~ Street, Lots 7 and 8, Block 59, West Boulder). VIII. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/INFORMATION A. North Boulder Recreation Center Status Report Presenter: Christine Andersen, Deputy City Manager for Environmental Services ~w PRAB Meenng 4/2/Ol - Page 7 Andersen gave the Board a buef explanahon of how the need for additional funds ~ to complete the North Boulder Recrearion Center Refurbishment was determmed She added that staff would retum to the Board at the next board meetmg wrth mformation to assist the Boazd ~n makmg dec~sions about the pro~ect. Board comments and questions • Hoge said so many people spoke as though there would be cuts in the pro~ect such as ehmmatmg the additional pool lanes ar the gymnashcs expansion She questioned how the rumors came about. Andersen responded that people knew that the cost esttmates came en higher and came to the wrong conclusaon that there would be cuts • von Bleichert said he learned of the mcreased costs when he received the packet on Friday and asked how the pubhc could get the mformation so qu~ckly. Kotowski said they could be asking the wrong people or s~mply mak~ng assumpttons. • Manlove suggested getUng the packet out eazher and also puttmg packet mformation on the web site • Hoge expressed concern over the process of deternunmg costs for pro~ects. She asked if it were possible to get more accurate estimates to avoid conung m over budget m the fu[ure Andersen replied tn the affirmanve and added that goeng through the process for the NBRC has provided insight znto emprovang the process on future pro~ects. ,.r„ • Osborne sud she is mterested m those capital pro~ects that the Board had ,,,, agreed would be deferred m 2001. She would hke to look at those pro~ects, deternune how much was pro~ected to be spent and consider redirectmg that money to NBRC Some Board members had quesuons about the Greenways Program Status Update that was mcluded as an mformahon rtem m the packet Manlove stated that the map had been adopted some time ago and the Boazd provided with the final phase items He asked where m that mformat~on ~s the development and/or evaluation of design and construcrion standazds~ Andersen replied [hat zt was rncluded ~n Next S[eps as hvo parts One is the process for the fu[[ Master Plan adoptton and the other is in the adophon of the map where the commatment was made to establash those des~gn standards She added that those are defznztely ancluded an the work plan. Hoge asked if that was the pomt where the PRAB could have discussions about the locahon for bike paths and their proximity to Wonderland Creek Andersen replzed that ~t ~s ~n the current work plan for the transportahon group but saul she would have to check on the tamtng. Andersen added that the coordenator for the bake paths has been hared and added that thas will be one of the work plan preoritees for that posakon PRAB Meehng 4/2/Ol - Page 8 Board members asked for a copy of Steve Jones' report as soon as possible Bernhardt repl~ed /"^ that at should be possible to get a copy to them before the April 23 PRAB meetang r.. von Bleichert said it would be helpful to have information on the long term plans for EBCC and the SBRC and any other pazcels that rrught have beanng on the Valmont Park site m terms of proposed uses Bernhardt responded that the only two large sates that provtde stmtlar facal~taes to Valmont are Foothills Communary Park and East Bou[der Commuraty Park Board members asked to be prov~ded wrth plans for East Boulder Communrty Park Andersen mformed the Boazd members that the Open Space Boazd of Trustees would hke to schedule a ~omt meehng to discuss Lottery Funds Andersen asked the PRAB to thmk about dates m June that would work for them von Bleichert said he will be gone May 30 through June 23 von Bleichert asked for a flow chart for CIP to show trackmg of funds - to show funds and what can be done wrth them IX. ~ture Board Items and Tours Apnl 10 - Dog Pazk Roundtable, 5 p m. at Ins Center Apnl 12 - Tour of Pleasantview Fields/Tom Watson Park Meet at Ins Center at 4.00. May 5- Retreat 9 a.m. - 1 p.m. L.ocation t b d[NCAR, Damon Room, 8 30 - 12.30 p.m.] May 8- Jomt Study Session with Ci[y Council, Council Chambers 6 p.m r'^ ~" X. NEXT BOARD MEETING Apn123, 2001 - Regulaz meetmg, Council Chambers X1. ADJOURN Meetmg ad~oumed at 9 45 p m. APPROVED BY PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD: _ ,61~.N-Qn.. ~1J ~ Gwen Dooley Board Chvr Attest ,.~..., Georgia cks ,,, Recordmg Secretary PRAB Meehng 4/2/Ol - Page 9