Minutes - Open Space - 07/11/2001Approved rer rtmended
OPEN SPACE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
Minutes
July 11, 2001
BOARD MEMI3L'RS PRLSF,NT
Chris Mueller Sean Kendall
Linda Andes-Georges
Linda Jouigensen
STAFI+ PRESENT
Mike Patton
Delani Wheeler
Ronda Romero
Jim Tyciings
Lisa Dierauf
Susan Ross
Lany MacDonnell
Kim Escalle
Jim Reeder
Ceeil Fenio
Cathy Vaughan-Grabowski
Linda Vandervorf
Doug Newcomb
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 6 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM 1- Approval of Minutes
Linda .Tourgensen moved that the minutes of June 13, 2001 bc approvcd. Sean Kendall
seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
AGLNllA ITEM 2- Director's Update
Dclani Wheeler presentecl an updaCe on the Boulder Community HospiCal site aC Aiapahoe
and 47`~' Streets. She told the board that the Open Space and Mountain Parks DeparCment
(OSMP) has been working direcdy with the hospital and the City's Development Review
Committee but at fhis time no action was ready for presentation. She reminded the board
fhat there is a narrow sfrip of Open Space land along Boulder Creek and, because of thc
annexation of this properCy, 31 acres at the site is designated to be environmentally
preserved because of flood issues. The hospital will develop fhe remaining 17 acres at the
site. There is ongoing discussion concerning the management of the environmentally
preserved partion. Because of adjacent OSMP land the preservation will extend the
protected area along Che riparian corridor. Off site flood issues that may ePfect the
development at this site must be resolved as well as on-site prairie dog and weed
management issues.
Delani also wanted to tell Yhe board that the department is currently working on a large
water rights purchase out of the $450,000 budgeted for water acquisitions this year. The
deparCment hopes to purchase 19 acre-foot uniCs of Colorado-Big Thompson water for
about $223,OOQ The intenCion is to use this water for agricultural puiposes on the Imel
property but beeause inost oP the northern tiier is located within the Northern Colorado
Watcr Conservancy DisCrict it can be used on many OSMP properties. In discussion abouY
possible candidates for in-sCream flow, Lefthand Creek was mentioned alChough because of
the value of the water other uses would bc more economically productive. Larry
MacDonnell told staff and thc board that the purchase would be a good investment for the
department and could even be traded for other water that would be more appropriate to use
as in-stream flow. Larry also explained how the value of this water fluctuates depending
on west slope storage, eta Linda Andes-Georges asked if the disposal of water rights
would be subject to the same restraints as the disposal of land. Delani told her that
according to the City Attorney it would be the same.
Delani thanked Linda Jourgensen for connecting her with Linda Miller aC the Chautauqua
gift cottage and askcd Catt~y Vaughan-Grabowski fo update the board on how that
arrangement is working out. Cathy Cold the board that the relaCionship with the gift cotfage
is great and thaf interaction between it and the OSMP cotCage at ChauCauqua has been
mutually beneficial. This is proving to be a logical and convenient place Co sell OSMP
Trail Maps.
Mike Patton asked the board abouC scheduling future field trips. The board agreed that the
morning of July 23"~ would be possible. They will meet at 7:30 a.m. at the Chautauqua
Cottage and Mike suggested Chat they fQCUS on climbing and bouldering issues. The field
trip should conclude around ] 1 a.m.
Mike also wanted to update the board on Che status of two Lrail conneckions that have been
previously discussed. He Yhought staff would be ready to bring this back to the board in
August. He said that bofh the Coalton to Greenbelt trail and the Greenbelt to Flatiron VisCa
trail connections have some habitat concetns due to opening up areas that were previously
inaccessible. The Greenbelt to Flariron Vista connection has issues because of its
proximity Co Highway 93. Mike offered Yo take any interested board members back to the
two sites and he also assured the board thaC staff is very thorough in their collecCion of data
to give the best advice regarding the impact a new trail would have on its surroundings.
The departmenY also hopes to get citizen feedback to help determine what alignmenC
provides the best in environmental protecYion as well as a positive visitar experience. Both
Linda Andes-Geoiges and Sean Kendall expressed interest in talking with staff inembers
on-site. Mike said that staPf would be meeting again with various interest groups to get
their ideas about how the trail 1lignment should proceed.
AGENDA ITEM 3- Matters from the Board
Larry MacDonnell expressed appreciation for the field trip to the mountain parks and
related his excitement to be involved in the care and protection of such wonderful lands.
He was concerned about the Sunrise Amphitheater and the plans the department is
considering for bringing the structure up to ADA staadards. He hoped that the quick fiY
compliance project was noC overriding a more holistic view of what the greater image of
the amphitheater could and should be. Other board members questioned the restraints that
historic designation migbt have on allowing major changes to occur. Sean Kendall
suggested that staff and the board review the plans and discuss possible options. Mike
Patton reminded the board of some of the design problems inherent with the current
structure and he agreed thaE the three design plans might not be sufficienC to meet the
department's/communiCy's needs. Chris Mueller asked for clarification on whaY exactly
was being planned for the amphiCheater - if plans were being made solely for ADA
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compliai~ce and addreseing safety issues or if a grcatcr resforation project was in Che works.
Mikc told the board that the primaiy focus for the projecC is for ADA compliance and
safety, with some minor restoiation. Larry thought thaC a qualified landec'ape architect
could create an enhancing design that would maximize Che beauty of the natural
surroundings and improve the existing structure wiChout changing its character. He also
suggeeted that [here may be enough communiry support lo provide some of the f~mding for
this project. He urged the department to pursue this projecY by involving professionals and
hoped tllat lhey would go Ueyond Che compliance and safery renovations and move toward
a greater restoration and beautificaCion goal.
Lariy MacDonnell asked staff for an update on the success of the Mallocy Cave voluntary
closure. Mike Patton told thc board that tl~ere has been less compliance Chan what was
desired by Yhe department. He said that a number of signs hadbeen desUroyed so that some
people weren't aware of Che closure. Some people simply refused to comply. The bat
colony seems to have Pewer individuals than in Che past and so staff feels that they have not
succeeded in stabilizing the populakion. He mentioned Che success of the closure at
Amphitheater Rock and announced the hatching of two prairie falcon chicks. Linda
Jourgensen asked staff if Chey were aware of the planned hike Co Mallory Cave that was
advertiscd in the newspaper recently. Sean Kendall was in contact wiCh the group
organizing the hike and told fhe board that such hikes are planned veiy early on. He told
staff and the board that he knew sorne of the ]eaders of the organization were awarc of Che
closure, Linda Andes-Georges asked if the area was staffed by volunteers. Mike Patton
told her that volunteers and rangers were frequenting tha area and Lhat the rangers were
more successful at encouraging compliance than the voluntecrs.
Chris Mueller told the board that the City Manager's OPfice has requested the appointment
of a member of the OSBT to the Greenways Committee and he asked Mike Pation to
explain what this involvement entailed. Mike told the boud thaY the Greenways committee
offers advice Co the City Manager about the Greenways sysCem. He said that this system is
of critieal inCerest to OSMP and that it often deals with riparian issues. It would be a one
year commihnent and the committee meets once every quarCer. Mike emphasized the
importance of having OSMP interesYs represented in the group. Linda Jourgensen
volunteered for this position and Linda Andes-Georges agreed fo be the alternate member.
Chris Mueller asked Che board Co consider two charfer changes that would go to the City
Council as recommendations to put on the ballot. He explained the changes that were
being proposed and the reasoning behind these changes. The first change in wording
(secYion 171) ensures that the acquisition function remain within fhe department The
second change in the charter (sact'ion 177 and 175c) requires the consent of the board not
only for the disposal of land but also for the acquisition of land. Chris told fhe board Chat
several citizens, including some board and staff inembers, and the City A[torney reviewed
the proposed changes. Chris said that in order to get this on the ballot the changes would
have Co be presenCed to the City Council in August which would require quick movement
by OSBT. Linda Andes-Geoiges asked if Che changes in the wording would require the
department to always have a real estaCe person on staff. Chris told her that ihe intention is
to keep the job of acquiring land for the department wiChin the department even though it
would be possible for the City Manager to appoint someone outside the department as
Director of Real Estate. Chris added that the department would probably always need a
real estate pcrson on staff although the change in the wording does not absolutely require
tt~at. Sean Kendall asked for clarification regarding the assignment of land to Che
deparCment by the ciry and Chris told him that with this change iC could not be done
wiChout the consent of the board.
Public Participation
Ricky Weiser, 4020 North 75~~' Street, first wanted to suggesl to staff thaf wlien it comes
tiine to geY input about changes at the Sunrise AmphitheaCer that they should seek advice
from some fechnical people in the CU theatre departmenC. She also urged the Board to
pass the proposed charter changes as they were drafted and thoLight that iC would be a good
protecYive device for the DeparCment.
Return to Board & Staff
Linda Jourgensen thought that a ballot issue should be cleac and simple because voters Cend
to vote "nd' if they don't understand it. Chris Mueller told Che board that it is the
responsibility of the CiCy Attorney's Office to crafC the actual wording for the ballot. Larry
MacDonnell commended Chrie on his dcaft fox its clarity and simplicity.
MOTION
Larry MacDonnell moved that the proposed charter changes along with Cbe attached
memorandum be recommended to the City Council. Linda Jourgensen seconded the
motion.
VOT~
The motion passed unanimously.
Chris Mueller introduced discussion concerning a proposed ordinance change by passing
out a reviaion oP the original memo and draft. The replacemenC ordinance has addressed
budget amounts so that they are consistent with the amount requested from Yhe City
CounciL The memorandum was revised to refer to various correspondences between tbe
City Manager and OSBT. He explained thaC, if adopYed by tY~e City Council, the ordinance
would require the City Manager to include in every budget recommendation the amount of
$LS million for the Open Space and Mountain Parks DepartmenC to defray the cost of the
Mountain Parks expenses. The ordinance does not purport to tie Che hands of Che City
Council but it does direct the City Manager to include tbis amount in his proposed budget
eveiy year. This is an atCempt to avoid a yearly debate and possible reduction of the
amount that should be designated to the Open Space and Mountain Parks Department. The
City Council could add to this amounC or subtract from iC but it will, at least, provide them
with a starting point. Linda Andes-Georges thoughC Yhat this proposal was a natural
extension of the position that the board holds and that they have no choice but to move
forward witb it. Linda Jourgensen was concerned that the ordinance may give the
appearance of"earmarking" because the CiCy Manager has no other obligation to the
budget like Che one which is being proposed. Chris agreed with thaC but in response
reminded all thaf they are only asking for what was part oP an agreement that the board
feels has not been honored.
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Sean Kendall asked fellow board mcmbers if anyone had received feedback from their
letters to council members. Chris told board members thaC there was a response from the
City Manager's Office which basically rejecled their position on the budget issue. There
has been some discussion wiYh a couple of council members buC iC wae not very clear how
they stood on the issue. Gencrally, board membeis thought that this ordinance proposal
clarifies their stand on the budget and provides somewhat of a fallback. Chris suggested
that the council may prefer tliat this be built into the budget to avoid a yearly debate over it.
Public Participation
None
Return to Board & Staff
Sfaff and Board members agreed on some minor changes in the revised meinorandum and
ordinance prior Co the motion.
MOTION
Larry MacDonnell moved thaC the proposed charler changes along with Che attached
memorandum bc recomniended Co thc City Council. Linda Joui•gensen seconded the
inotion.
VOT~
The motion passed unanimously.
vo~r~
The motion passed unanimously.
AG~NDA ITEM 4- Public Participation/Items Not on the Agenda
llon Glen, 6S8 Furman Way, related some of his experiences in the field dealing with
people who were not complying with some of the wildlife closures. He also wanted to
thank staff, especially Cary Richardson, for the closure of the west end of Boulder
Rescrvoir for the ospreys. His primary intention, howevcr, was to approach the board with
his concerns about rapCor proCection. He sharcd several examples of witnessing iaptors
being frightened from their nests by gliders. He reminded staff and the board how tenuous
the nesCing situation is and how easily it can be disturbed. He hoped that the board would
support the development of some kind of procedure by which a citizcn could report
incidences of such disturbances. He mentioned other attempts at approaching various city
personnel and the airport manager with this concern but nothing was done. In response,
Mike Patton told Don and Che Uoard that he has bcen involved with exacdy this issue but in
the past had been discouraged from approaching fhe FAA about esYablishing some
reatricCions. A voluntary compliance was attempted through mailings and postings buC was
not very successful. Recently, however, the aicport manager, Ray Grundy, thought tha4 it
was Yime to gather support and lpproach the FAA about this problem. Mike ihought that
they could get supporC at thc state level but was not sure about the federal government. So
diseussion is in progress and a letter fo the FAA is being drafted. 5taff and the board
discussed what options the department had Por discouraging glider disturbance, but under
Che current regulations iC would be difficulC Co control this activity by citations given by
rangers. Linda Andes-Georges asked who would be the authors of this letter to the FAA.
Mike told her that OSMP, the State Department of Wildlife and, hopePully, the USFS
would be involved. Mike also anticipated that Ray Grundy would be willing Co eign the
letter. Linda encouraged staPf to pursue this and also suggested an annual program Cbat
would educate members of the air communiCy about the effects these disturbances have on
wildlife. Don Glen wanted the board to know that the crop duster Cow planes may be in
violation of the Boulder Airporf Noise Mitigation Plan which, technically, could jeopardize
Che lease agreement between Che city and the Boulder Municipal AirporC (BMA). He
wanYed to share this information as possible leverage for getUng some action. Along Chese
lines, Lan•y MacDonnell wondered if something could be put into the lease requiring
compliance to such air resfrictions. He thought that Che economic pressure would cause the
airporf to demand compliance 1'rom the pilots. He thought that this approach may Ue more
productive than going to Che FAA. Mike told the Uoard that staff would discuss this
possibility and bring it back to Chem at a later date.
Ricky Weiser, 4020 North 75~~' Street, asked Che board to include hot air balloon acCiviCies
along with the glidecs 6ecause they also disturb the raptors. Ricky also wanCed staff and
the board to know that there was some movement going on to change regulations
conceining the rights to close off streams as they move through private property.
Linda Andes-Georges stressed the importance of documentation of wildlife disCurbances by
aircraft as the departmenY pursues this proposal for greater restrictions. Mike Patton
assured her that the department would be sure Co address this request.
AGrNDA ITEM 5- Volunteer Services for Open Space and Mountain Parks
Annual Reports 2000; Midyear Update 2001
Cathy Vaughan-Grabowski introduced tihis itein by commending the work of Lisa Dierauf
and Susan Ross, Volunteer Coordinators, and expressing her appreciation for the work and
enthLisiasin they bring ta the department. Lisa described the merger transition as going
veiy smoothly because she and Susan have not only worked together Uefore but they also
work together very well. She described the various categories of volunteers and gave some
examples of what they do. She and 5usan plan to have another Yraining session in tbe fall
and are currently involved in an evaluation of the volunteer experience by the volunteers.
Chris Mueller referred to the agenda item document and attachments and commented about
the number of people involved in the volunteer program and tbe amazing nuinber of hours
Yhey have contributed. Mike Patton added that the work of the volunteers is an imporCant
aid to staff. Linda Andes-Georges Cold the board that no matter how impressive the
number of hours worked appears, it is probably greatly underesfimated. Susan and Lisa
desciibed how Chey have divided the administrative duties and organized the newly
combined programs. Lisa also mentioned some of the enrichment training sessions that
were being offered to volunteers and invited any interested board members to attend.
Public Participation
None
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Return to I3oard & Staff
Sean Kendall asked if volunteers were involved in d•ail mainteuance. Susan Ross told him
that Americorps as well as individuals may get involved. Sometimes a special interesC
group will "adopP' an area and return to the same site Co work year aPter year. Lisa Dierauf
told the Board that somc oP Che volunteer tasks require specific skills, such as birding, but
there are plenCy of more general types of jobs available for anyone who would ask to help.
Chris expressed his appreciation for Che success of the volunCSer program and ren~inded the
board that this agenda item required no acCion.
AGTNDA ITEM 6- Consideration of a motion to honor the Nm~thern Arapaho tribe.
Mike Patton introduced Doug Newcomb to present this agenda item to the board. Doug
told board members that this declaration is similar to what other organizations were doing
to honor the NorChern Arapaho tribe. He told them Chat OSMP has had a lot of inYeraction
witli members from this tribe concerning recommendations for handling cultural issues on
OSMP lands. For the past six years the departmenC has invited members from several
Cribes to pardcipate in consultadons that they havc oiganized. Dot~g also menTioned
several imporCant individuals, s~ich as Nelson While, Gaiy Brown aud Francis Brown, who
have participated in Chis consultation and expressed his hope that the board would make
this recommendation ko the mayor. Cl~ris Mueller was concerned that othcr u•ibes may feel
left out since dhis was addressing only one speciPic tribe. Doug didn't think that any other
h~ibe would think it inappropriate for this department to propose this honor to the NorChern
Arapaho tribe because of the special relationship it has with them.
Public ParYicipation
Don Glen, 658 rurman Way, told the board that at the gatharing at CU the mayor, Will
Toor, told Yhe audience ChaC Boulder citizens participaCed in the Sand Creek massacre. He
also mentioned an incident when a Native American expressed his appreciation for a
wildlife closure thaf was protecCing eagle nesting siles.
Ricky Weiser, 4020 North 75~~' Street, shared her experience of playing hostess to a field
trip that was held on her land as parC of the Tribal ConPerence.
Return to Board & Staff
Mike Patton toid Che board that much of the departmenYs good relationship with the Native
Americans was due Co lhe interacCions and efforts by Doug.
MOTION
Linda Jourgensen moved that Che OSBT recommend that Che Mayor sign a declaration
honoring the NorChern Ar~pal~o tribe. The moCion was seconded.
VOT~
The motion passed unanimously.
AG~NllA ITEM 7- Consideration of a lease management program for certain
structures on Open Space and Mountain Parks lands and recommendation to apply
revenue from such leases to building maintenance, refurUishment, restoration and
stabilization for Open Space and Mountain Parks purposes.
Jim Reeder introduced this leaee management plan by telling the board that there are six
houses owned by OSMP that, with minor improvements, would be suitable to lease. The
department would hire a manager to take charge of the leasing which would spare staff for
other duties. The revenues earned would be used to restiore and mainCain structures on
Chose and other OSMP properties. One of the improvemenCs would be the installation of
fences that would delineaYe the areas usable by the Cenants. He also told the board that
there would be no pets allowed and there would probably be one year leases. Delani
Wheeler was very successful at finding a lease managemenC company willing to take the
job at a very reasonable rate. The department estimates a gain in revenues of between
$37,000 and $44,000 in the first full year.
Sean Kendall told staff thaC they would have to follow scaYe statutes regarding evictions for
nonpaymenf of rent. He was also curious about fhe leasing company chaiging the
department even if a house was vacant. Delani Cold him that because Che company agreed
to a management fee based on collecCed rents, Chey would not collect the management fee
until the house was rented. Sean also asked if the revenues earned from these houses could
be used for other OSMP puiposes. Jim Reeder said this was the case and told him that as
long as the department purchases new land it will also continue to acquire buildings which
will need mainCenance. The departmenc currently owns 110 sh~uctures. Mike PatCon Cold
the board Chat there are resforation projects Chat will require over $100,000 just this year so
this sort of fund will supplement Chese kinds of projecCs but it also can be used for other
OSMP puiposes.
Linda Andes-Georges asked if OSMP employees would be given first choice al renting
these properties at a discount. Delani told her thaC this was attempted earlier witli an
employee caretaker program but there were potential issues with compensation and
taxation that made the situation problematia The department has made offers to oCher city
and county housing programs to relocate some of these houses but at this time there has
been no interest.
Chris Mueller asked if the chat~ter allowed the department to parcicipate in such activity and
Delani Cold him that discussion with the City AtCorney's Office assured them that since the
property was owned by the deparfinent the revenues would be also be theirs. Mike Patton
told Che board that a citizen suggested using rental revenues as a way of heiping to sustain
our system. He also told them that staff was bringing this item to tihem to geC their advice.
Chris Mueller felt that this kind of activity is not a funetion of the departmenC and
recommended that it should eventually be phased out. He suggested renting the structures
for the length of Cheir useful life and then razing Chem. Mike said that because some of the
structures may be considered "historic" (anyChing over 50 years) they may have to be
stabilized. Linda Jourgensen agreed that Che historic issue is imporCant but also that
destroying houses in an ~uea where fhey are in such demand should also be a considerafion.
There was other discussion regarding the possibility of moving and/or selling the houses or
deconstructing them for salvage materials. lt was also suggested to offer the houses for
free if the taker moved Chem off of the properCy. Delani told the board tbat because of the
hisYorical significance and the materials used, moving some of Che structures may not be a
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possibiliry. Chris again voiced his concern tl~at thc memo does not indicate intent~ion to
move away from the residential rental Uusiness.
Public Participation
Ricky Weiser, 4020 North 75t~' Street, lives near the Kolb property which is an opcrating
farin Uut no one lives there. She tlioughC it seemed a shame to have a house sit empty,
especially wiLh all the Tarming activity going on around iti.
Return to Board & Staff
Delani Wheeler said that ~ome sCructures end up having other uses over tiine and examples
were given - fire cache, storage, eta She told Clie board that the department didn't inCend
to get intio Yhe leasing business ae a primaiy goal but acquisitions naturally brought in lhc
responeibiliCy of dealing with structures.
Chris Mueller told slaff thati he thought leasing them for now was acceptable buC would
hesitate to agree to spend large sums of money to keep them up. He thought that they
should be managed with the intention fhat we are getting out of the business but that
continued maintenance could prolong this. He did agree that using the structures for
OSMP puiposes was appropriate. He asked other board, members how they felt abouC this
iYem. Lariy MacDonnell agreed with Cbris, and hoped Che consideration would include Che
inlention of eventually phasing out the leasing plan. Linda Jourgensen thought Yhese
sfructures should be used for the fiine being and they would be available for departmant use
in the firture. She opposed destiroying the houscs. Linda Andes-Georges agreed with Linda
Jourgensen in thaC it would be wasteful Co destiny Clie structures or let them go to ruin.
Staff and the board discussed possible changes to the consideration and thc board asked
staff to adjust thc recommendation and return it to the board Tor approval.
ADJOURNMTNT - The meeting adjourned at 9 p.m.
These draft mi~utes were prepared by Cecil Penio.